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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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advertising ownage @ SF Apple store

Funny, but priceless PR for both companies imo

Apple Gets Pwned, SF Store Is Now Advertising DVD Jon’s doubleTwist



Apple may be known for its advertising prowess, but this little marketing coup is going to go down as one of the most hilarious ad placements in recent history. doubleTwist, the company co-founded by renowned software reverse engineer DVD Jon, has managed to place a banner for its product directly next to the main entrance to Apple’s flagship San Francisco store.
The ad invites passersby to try “The Cure for iPhone Envy”, which they can use to access their “iTunes Library on any device. In Seconds”. It’s clearly a message that Apple doesn’t want anything to do with. We’re hearing that Apple employees are currently scratching their heads as to how this appeared. So how did this wind up only a few feet from the store’s entrance, and directly beneath a giant Apple logo?
Apparently the window technically belongs to BART, the Bay Area’s commuter transit system. doubleTwist got in touch with an ad agency that BART deals with and leased the window, giving them the chance to plaster their ad just below the Apple logo in its full glory. This is apparently the first time the window has been used for this purpose (before it just sat bare). And because everything was done legally, Apple’s going to have a hard time getting rid of it.
While DVD Jon has a long history of reverse engineering digital media security, doubleTwist is a perfectly legitimate software application that makes it easy to manage media files for a variety of hardware devices. It’s sort of like iTunes, except it works for nearly any device — not just your iPod and iPhone (you can find an extensive overview here, and the app now supports both Windows and Mac). Given that one of the iPod’s biggest advantages over competitors is the seamless experience it offers to users, Apple probably isn’t a big fan.
Update: The ad has apparently been taken down, as noted by a few commenters, but Jon Lech Johansen (AKA DVD Jon) has tweeted that it will be back up soon.
Thanks to Chester Ng for the tip.
 
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Hahaha awesome!
 
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LOL, nice.

I don't see where Apple will be able to do anything about the advertisement, but I would be willing to guess DVD Jon just signed up for Round 2 of DMCA litigation in his life. Apple will be surmising his app functions because they reverse engineered something: the iTunes library format, service protocols, etc. and go after him that way.

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Originally Posted by Gobbles
LOL, nice.

I don't see where Apple will be able to do anything about the advertisement, but I would be willing to guess DVD Jon just signed up for Round 2 of DMCA litigation in his life. Apple will be surmising his app functions because they reverse engineered something: the iTunes library format, service protocols, etc. and go after him that way.

Dana -- Weren't / aren't you an IP bubba? What do you think?
Reverse engineering is totally within the law.

Also, I don't really see what IP has been infringed here. Jon didn't copy anthing and isn't trying to pass himself off as endorsed by Apple. He could run into some trouble if he facilitates infringement but I don't see any of that either. People don't use his product to steal copyrighted songs and Apple has no patents that cover this technology.

What Apple has done with iTunes borders on anti-competative. The Government won't run to their defense.
 

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Originally Posted by Barrister
Reverse engineering is totally within the law.

Also, I don't really see what IP has been infringed here. Jon didn't copy anthing and isn't trying to pass himself off as endorsed by Apple. He could run into some trouble if he facilitates infringement but I don't see any of that either. People don't use his product to steal copyrighted songs and Apple has no patents that cover this technology.

What Apple has done with iTunes borders on anti-competative. The Government won't run to their defense.
OK, my memory is fuzzy on Jon's first run in with the encryption on DVDs, but I thought he was prosecuted under the DMCA for reverse engineering the copyright protection crypto then publishing a free script to circumvent it?
 
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OK, my memory is fuzzy on Jon's first run in with the encryption on DVDs, but I thought he was prosecuted under the DMCA for reverse engineering the copyright protection crypto then publishing a free script to circumvent it?
Yes. But he won that case.
 
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