Notices
991 | 997 | 996 General Porsche Water Cooled 911 Discussion Forum.

Sport Auto supertest: Porsche 991 - Video

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 19, 2011 | 02:51 PM
  #11  
Jules944's Avatar
Teamspeed Rookie
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 28
Jules944 is an unknown quantity at this point
@ samuel,

The 991 S costs about 105k€ here in Germany only with the PDK and without anything else.

It's just that "cheap" on your side of the Atlantic...

I just configurated a 991S without any "design stuff" for the interior and got to 142k with PCCB,PDK,PDCC.
 
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 11:05 AM
  #12  
Ludas's Avatar
Teamspeed Pro
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,177
From: Stockholm
Ludas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond reputeLudas has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Rage
These results are impressive, but take them with a grain of salt. That C2S had every option imaginable, taking the price to 145,000€. More importantly, the suspension (camber etc.) was setup for the track with values far outside Porsche's factory settings. And I don't know what these tires were, but they weren't normal P Zeros. The wet handling time of 1:46, compared to a 1:29 of the 997.2 GT3 on Pilot Sport Cups, hints at extreme dry-performance track tires.

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true but I'm still curious where you got the info from. Did the article say so or what's your source?
 
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 12:14 PM
  #13  
samuel.g's Avatar
New OG
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,927
samuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond reputesamuel.g has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Jules944
@ samuel,

The 991 S costs about 105k€ here in Germany only with the PDK and without anything else.

It's just that "cheap" on your side of the Atlantic...

I just configurated a 991S without any "design stuff" for the interior and got to 142k with PCCB,PDK,PDCC.
Jesus, that's a lot of money for a C2S no matter which way you put it. Never thought they were so expensive over there.
 
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:36 PM
  #14  
Rage's Avatar
Teamspeed Junior Member
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 79
From: South Germany
Rage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura aboutRage has a spectacular aura about
Originally Posted by Ludas
I wouldn't be surprised if this were true but I'm still curious where you got the info from. Did the article say so or what's your source?
Yep, all in the article. SportAuto started measuring the chassis setup of the Supertest cars this year, so we don't know if all the former test cars came tuned-up as well. So far, pretty much all of them were out of alignment compared to the recommended factory settings. The facelift GT-R test car ran 2.5 degrees of camber front and rear, for example.

The head journalist Horst von Saurma was full of praise for the chassis improvements, but he noted that the weight of the 991 (1497 kg) was 40 kg more than the 997 C2S Supertest car, in-gear acceleration got a bit worse and fuel consumption was the same. And that thing with the wet-handling time is weird, its about the worst one they ever recorded.
 

Last edited by Rage; Nov 20, 2011 at 04:38 PM.
Old Nov 21, 2011 | 12:55 PM
  #15  
jumping_horse's Avatar
Teamspeed Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 469
jumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the roughjumping_horse is a jewel in the rough
Originally Posted by Rage
Yep, all in the article. SportAuto started measuring the chassis setup of the Supertest cars this year, so we don't know if all the former test cars came tuned-up as well. So far, pretty much all of them were out of alignment compared to the recommended factory settings. The facelift GT-R test car ran 2.5 degrees of camber front and rear, for example.

The head journalist Horst von Saurma was full of praise for the chassis improvements, but he noted that the weight of the 991 (1497 kg) was 40 kg more than the 997 C2S Supertest car, in-gear acceleration got a bit worse and fuel consumption was the same. And that thing with the wet-handling time is weird, its about the worst one they ever recorded.
- Couldnt agree more with you..
 
Old Nov 21, 2011 | 03:48 PM
  #16  
Carrera's Avatar
Teamspeed Pro
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,454
From: Pennsylvania
Carrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond reputeCarrera has a reputation beyond repute
I saw it mentioned somewhere that this test was done on Pirellis, which a 997 owner with Pirellis claimed were horrible in the wet. I guess that could explain the horrible wet handling time.
 
Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:56 PM
  #17  
dxpetrov's Avatar
Teamspeed Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 48
From: UAE
dxpetrov is an unknown quantity at this point
^ And +12 deg C outside temperature doesn't help either...
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
McRae
458 | 430 | 360
2
Jul 26, 2010 01:06 AM
Pierre996TT
Cayenne | Panamera | Macan
4
Nov 2, 2009 11:34 PM
DJ
GT
3
Jul 30, 2009 03:08 PM
DJ
991 | 997 | 996 Turbo
1
Mar 11, 2008 01:50 PM
DJ
991 | 997 | 996 Turbo
2
Feb 2, 2008 11:22 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:54 PM.