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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by like.no.other
I have a C4S purely for the aesthetic reasons the wider body and the reflector strip sealed the deal
+1 also!!!!
 
Old May 24, 2010 | 12:57 AM
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This is why they should only do the wide body... Beautiful lines ;o)

 
Old May 24, 2010 | 01:16 AM
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c4's look better.....and are perfect daily drivers. Most people don't track the cars so why worry about the awd for daily use would be my guess. No different than gt3rs over gt3. Wider looks better.

Jox the glass sundried tasted better. You are wrong
 
Old May 24, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by B4rad
porschecarreragtmay6

'03 Porsche Boxster S Basalt Black Metallic/Sand Beige
Mods
TPC Turbocharger
Supersprint Racing Exhaust
'02+ 996 Turbo front end conversion
Turbo-look spoiler
Turbo-look wheels
H&R springs and shocks
(hopefully, when I'm 17)

I have my doubts you will have that when you are 17.
I can dream =)

I'm just thinking a stock. Those are mods that I'd want. But will it happen, no. I'm still very sure that in that time frame, I'll be able too afford a car for 11k. I save a lot.


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Here is some more widebody.






Who agrees the Panamera's rear quarters need to be wider? And who thinks the 4, 4S, and Turbo should be even wider?

 

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Old May 24, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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I have to say, even in the dry, the 4S is soooo much grippier than my 2S was. Even my wife commented this weekend that my car handled a favorite on-ramp so much better than the old 911. Maddeningly, the only car I've owned that felt as planted as the C4S was the RS4 I traded in...
 
Old May 24, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
I have to say, even in the dry, the 4S is soooo much grippier than my 2S was. Even my wife commented this weekend that my car handled a favorite on-ramp so much better than the old 911. Maddeningly, the only car I've owned that felt as planted as the C4S was the RS4 I traded in...
the grip you feel doesn't make the car better thru the corners it just makes it feel faster if you enter a corner slowly and accelerate out of it. the awd grip you talk about is the very reason I don't like awd. the cars are much faster on the edge with two wheel drive and controlling your tire spin with rear tires only. this is the point at which the car is freeist and is allowed to corner as the engineers designed. once you add throttle in a corner you scrub a very large amount of grip and create tire spin where a virtually coasted corner will create much more exit speed.

it does feel great to use the awd when you enter corners slowly. just not the optimal for true speed out of a 911. it also feels much safer at slower speeds.
 
Old May 24, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Rabble rabble rabble rabble . . .
How can we trust anything you say after you admitted you like the glass jar sun-dried tomatos better, you freak!
 
Old May 24, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jox
How can we trust anything you say after you admitted you like the glass jar sun-dried tomatos better, you freak!
this advice doesn't work for misbadged audi's. Sorry
 
Old May 24, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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I owned a 996 C2 back to back with a 996 C4S, and the difference was quite noticeable. The steering was lighter on the C2, but the front always felt a bit more 'wander-y'. The C4S was more neutral in its handling, had more weighted steering, and generally felt a lot more planted, especially at triple digit speeds. In a track setting, the C4S really flattered my (at the time) pretty rudimentary driving skill.

At the time, I liked the C4S a lot more. I'm a big fan of grip - my biggest issue with the M5 is the way it just spins the tires at the drop of a hat - and the C4S just dominates in this area. Coming out of a low-speed corner, you just plant your right foot, and it claws its way out like a champ, no feathering required. Elsewhere, it's no faster than a C2, but it gives you a wider margin for error.

That said, the only way to get the tail out was either lift-off oversteer or heavy trail-braking, both of which are a bit scary in a 911. There simply wasn't enough power for power oversteer. Also, the C4S is less sensitive to throttle steering, as the AWD tends to compensate somewhat for what you do with throttle input. The 911 platform in general is great for throttle steering, so I'm not keen to blunt that experience.

These days, being a bit more skilled as a driver, I'd go for an RWD 911, as long as it had *enough* grip at the rear (i.e. way more than the M5), but it really is a matter of personal preference. Both options have significant advantages over the other in certain areas.
 

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