Amateur attitude from AP Car Design
#1
Hello,
I'm currently a member on 6speedonline and have been for some time now. You can also read my post here. Briefly, below is a review of what I have been through working with AP Car Design, read it and judge it yourself.
Since we are all Porsche loving fellow members here, I thought it would be best to write a review about AP Car Design in Gottingen, Germany. I would rather write my thoughts and experience instead of keeping them private.
I'm not there to bash anyone's business but what I thought would be a great experience turned into something distorted and full of mistakes. I wouldn't expect this behavior from guys who hang as professional on whom are in reality amateurs.
First, they were very kind and 'seemed' very professional. I visited them at their workshop in Germany for a few days, they were kind and welcoming. Well, thats all sales to you.
Second, I paid in full and upfront in cash when I was in Germany. I checked out the finished cars and thought they were very well built.
When I flew back to Istanbul, I was promised the parts would be fully ready in max. 3 weeks, all parts would be painted and installed and would be ready to plug and play.
However, its been 62 days today, and I still have many items missing, for example, the rear carbon spoiler, the metal brackets of the spoiler, the side wings etc.
I first received the front bumper, front leds, front lip spoiler, rear bumper, rear taillights, control modules, engine lid. I thought every single part would arrive with the same cargo.
Then I emailed and phoned them about the missing parts. Then I received the cable for the engine lid, the bypass to not to raise the lid at 80 miles.
This came with a seperate cargo.
Then I realized I was also missing the plastic exhaust cover that goes underneath the rear bumper. I asked about that, and they told someone at the shop forgot to ship that TOO!
It must be on its way, STILL !
And I'm still missing the metal brackets for the spoilers, the side blades.
One more thing, and the freaking rear spoiler! Big freaking issue!
All in all, I phoned Thomas Nater, the owner, and after he got paid in cash, he doesn't answer my calls anymore, instead he forwards me to someone VERY new at the shop. I guess its my personal mistake to hand them the money at first then wait for items.
I expect them to ship the rest of the cargo this Wednesday or Thursday and it will take another 7-8 days for the shipment so it will come around 90 days of waiting.
Gentleman, I expect you all to gain from this experience, and if you are still going to work with this company, just be careful. I had to cancel my business trip, real estate exhibition, in New York. I ve already told them about this and all they had to say was the new guy was sorry. Thomas Nater didn't even bother to call me once about this. He was grinning and very happy when I handed him the money because he thought it was 'good business' for him.
Finally, I'm here to protect and warn my Teamspeed friends about AP Car Design. Other people might have or had different and better experiences before. I'm very disappointed and found the whole thing disgusting. Modification and cars are not my business. I do these things for fun and as a hobby. But if you own a company or planning on ordering stuff from them, like I said before, be careful.
God bless and cheers!
I'm currently a member on 6speedonline and have been for some time now. You can also read my post here. Briefly, below is a review of what I have been through working with AP Car Design, read it and judge it yourself.
Since we are all Porsche loving fellow members here, I thought it would be best to write a review about AP Car Design in Gottingen, Germany. I would rather write my thoughts and experience instead of keeping them private.
I'm not there to bash anyone's business but what I thought would be a great experience turned into something distorted and full of mistakes. I wouldn't expect this behavior from guys who hang as professional on whom are in reality amateurs.
First, they were very kind and 'seemed' very professional. I visited them at their workshop in Germany for a few days, they were kind and welcoming. Well, thats all sales to you.
Second, I paid in full and upfront in cash when I was in Germany. I checked out the finished cars and thought they were very well built.
When I flew back to Istanbul, I was promised the parts would be fully ready in max. 3 weeks, all parts would be painted and installed and would be ready to plug and play.
However, its been 62 days today, and I still have many items missing, for example, the rear carbon spoiler, the metal brackets of the spoiler, the side wings etc.
I first received the front bumper, front leds, front lip spoiler, rear bumper, rear taillights, control modules, engine lid. I thought every single part would arrive with the same cargo.
Then I emailed and phoned them about the missing parts. Then I received the cable for the engine lid, the bypass to not to raise the lid at 80 miles.
This came with a seperate cargo.
Then I realized I was also missing the plastic exhaust cover that goes underneath the rear bumper. I asked about that, and they told someone at the shop forgot to ship that TOO!
It must be on its way, STILL !
And I'm still missing the metal brackets for the spoilers, the side blades.
One more thing, and the freaking rear spoiler! Big freaking issue!
All in all, I phoned Thomas Nater, the owner, and after he got paid in cash, he doesn't answer my calls anymore, instead he forwards me to someone VERY new at the shop. I guess its my personal mistake to hand them the money at first then wait for items.
I expect them to ship the rest of the cargo this Wednesday or Thursday and it will take another 7-8 days for the shipment so it will come around 90 days of waiting.
Gentleman, I expect you all to gain from this experience, and if you are still going to work with this company, just be careful. I had to cancel my business trip, real estate exhibition, in New York. I ve already told them about this and all they had to say was the new guy was sorry. Thomas Nater didn't even bother to call me once about this. He was grinning and very happy when I handed him the money because he thought it was 'good business' for him.
Finally, I'm here to protect and warn my Teamspeed friends about AP Car Design. Other people might have or had different and better experiences before. I'm very disappointed and found the whole thing disgusting. Modification and cars are not my business. I do these things for fun and as a hobby. But if you own a company or planning on ordering stuff from them, like I said before, be careful.
God bless and cheers!
#2
Well, we have all had issues one time or another like this but rule of thumb is never pay in cash as you have zero recourse (in most cases).
Anyway welcome to the team and hopefully your next new post will be a fun and positive one!
Anyway welcome to the team and hopefully your next new post will be a fun and positive one!
#3
Cheers!
#4
Never dealt with those guys but I bookmarked their site and visit it every once in a while to enjoy their latest project. I am shocked by how unprofessional they appear to be while handling your order. Hope they deliver all the parts that they promised and this ugly deal gets a fair resolution.
#6
Never dealt with those guys but I bookmarked their site and visit it every once in a while to enjoy their latest project. I am shocked by how unprofessional they appear to be while handling your order. Hope they deliver all the parts that they promised and this ugly deal gets a fair resolution.
#7
Design911.co.uk and porscheshop.co.uk are both good sites with good customer care. I'm also waiting for 2k10 door handles, RS wheel caps and RS 3.8 carpet badge for rear seats. I'm ordering KW V3 Coilovers and air lift for both front and rear and receiving them in three weeks.
#9
Thank you for your kind words and warm welcome! I really appreciate it!
#10
I'm thinking about buying this car: Car Ad: Detailed Item View and Googled the company and found this thread. Doesn't sound good what has happened to "eatbreathdrive" but is it anyone else who has had anything to do with the company? I really like the car because it has all the options I'm looking for. Anyone know anything about the specific car?
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