New to shooting-- looking to purchase
#11
Just from my 25 years of guns and trading, 9mm is weak high speed but weak stop power, 40mm is a good compromise round and not a bad choice but I prefer .45 so my choices are:
For me HK45c (45) or HK P30 (40) , if not go Glock 23 (40) or Glock 30 (45) they are the most reliable brands and are the opposite ends of spectrum HK is pricey and Glock is reasonable.
For me HK45c (45) or HK P30 (40) , if not go Glock 23 (40) or Glock 30 (45) they are the most reliable brands and are the opposite ends of spectrum HK is pricey and Glock is reasonable.
#17
Thx for the info guys---
I've done some shooting, and fell in love with a .45 1911 at the local range. I'm now trying to determine which one to pick up.
Rifle--- haven't had chance to shoot yet-- will spend more time soon
I've done some shooting, and fell in love with a .45 1911 at the local range. I'm now trying to determine which one to pick up.
Rifle--- haven't had chance to shoot yet-- will spend more time soon
#18
I did my homework.
I have a Les Baer .45. Les Baer Custom Inc.
A JP Enterprises AR-15 rifle. JP Rifles
A Benelli shotgun. Benelli Shotguns | Benelli M2 Tactical
All super accurate which is what you want. A little more expensive but you're only buying three guns.
You'll outshoot everybody.
I have a Les Baer .45. Les Baer Custom Inc.
A JP Enterprises AR-15 rifle. JP Rifles
A Benelli shotgun. Benelli Shotguns | Benelli M2 Tactical
All super accurate which is what you want. A little more expensive but you're only buying three guns.
You'll outshoot everybody.
#19
Some good and some really bad advice in this thread.
I'm glad you like the 1911, but if this is your first firearm, I would strongly suggest you to avoid the 1911 for now. The 1911 is a very accurate firearm, but it's maintenance intensive and honestly, not for a beginner. The 1911 requires a high maintenance cycles where recoil spring need to be replaced every 5000 rounds, and the gun needs to be kept pretty clean. Also, if you want a 1911 that runs reliably out of the box, expect to pay north of 3k for a semicustom maker! In addition, this doesn't even begin to touch on all the crap about reliable magazines for the 1911...ugh.
If you like the ergos of the 1911, then I would suggest you to check out the SW MP. It adopts many of the ergo benefits of the 1911 but without all the headache. I know of several folks that love and run their MPs hard.
As for the 9 versus 45 debate, I think it's absolutely silly to compare the two anymore. Anyone who claims that a 45 does more damage (note - I did not use "stopping power") hasn't kept up on the recent advancements on 9mm JHPs. One I strongly recommend is the 9mm HST.
ARs are a different thing all together...
There is a lot of information (both good and bad) out there. Always ask why and make sure your BS meter is on.
I'm glad you like the 1911, but if this is your first firearm, I would strongly suggest you to avoid the 1911 for now. The 1911 is a very accurate firearm, but it's maintenance intensive and honestly, not for a beginner. The 1911 requires a high maintenance cycles where recoil spring need to be replaced every 5000 rounds, and the gun needs to be kept pretty clean. Also, if you want a 1911 that runs reliably out of the box, expect to pay north of 3k for a semicustom maker! In addition, this doesn't even begin to touch on all the crap about reliable magazines for the 1911...ugh.
If you like the ergos of the 1911, then I would suggest you to check out the SW MP. It adopts many of the ergo benefits of the 1911 but without all the headache. I know of several folks that love and run their MPs hard.
As for the 9 versus 45 debate, I think it's absolutely silly to compare the two anymore. Anyone who claims that a 45 does more damage (note - I did not use "stopping power") hasn't kept up on the recent advancements on 9mm JHPs. One I strongly recommend is the 9mm HST.
ARs are a different thing all together...
There is a lot of information (both good and bad) out there. Always ask why and make sure your BS meter is on.
#20
You're right...9mm are great guns.
My Sig-Sauer 226 is awesome and from back in the day where you could load it up to 30 round mags.
Somebody here recommended the CZ75B...Man, are those things accurate and very inexpensive!
My Sig-Sauer 226 is awesome and from back in the day where you could load it up to 30 round mags.
Somebody here recommended the CZ75B...Man, are those things accurate and very inexpensive!