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Old 07-17-2009 | 04:42 PM
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License restriction removal questions

I finally (9 month application process) received my handgun license for NYS. Unfortunately, in most counties they "restrict" licenses to hunting and target, meaning you can only C&C on your way to and from a range/hunting location.

From my interpretation of the law, these are administrative restrictions and you cannot be charged with a crime if you do C&C for purposes other then traveling to and from the range/hunting location. You can be reported to the issuing officer (County Judge) who can suspend/revoke your license, but face no criminal penalty.

Some judges will remove the restrictions if you write them. I drafted a letter, but figured I would check and see if there is anything in particular I should include. I mentioned being a business owner carrying large sums of cash (although I am not sure if that is an old wives tale), travel through NY regularly, active and lifelong member of local shooting clubs, participated in NRA sponsored safety courses. Anything else?
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 05:05 PM
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Just make sure you mention you'll blow his head off if he doesn't comply.
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 05:08 PM
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I know in Mass the golden response as to why you need to C&C is "All lawful purposes." It is usually looked down upon to say you are carrying large sums of cash, because you are not supposed to carry to protect property.
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 05:31 PM
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NJ is the same way, I don't think they have ever issued civilian CCW permits in the past 20 years, only to retired LEOs and Celebs, if that. Its unfortunate that much of the Northeast shits on the 2nd Amendment but hopefully the NRA will fight the good fight here.
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 10:18 PM
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I would hold off until you've had the permit for at least a year, as well as see if you can't befriend a few LEOs. Character references from the rozzers go a long, long way in that regard.
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 10:23 PM
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I would hold off until you've had the permit for at least a year, as well as see if you can't befriend a few LEOs. Character references from the rozzers go a long, long way in that regard.
+1000 on the references. MD doesn't issue permits to ANYONE other than retired LEO, but a guy I know just got his because it was accompanied by letters from four senior Federal law enforcement types he knows. He got it on the first try.
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Simba
I would hold off until you've had the permit for at least a year, as well as see if you can't befriend a few LEOs. Character references from the rozzers go a long, long way in that regard.
Four character references are required to get the target and hunting permit (which I have).
 
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Old 07-17-2009 | 10:37 PM
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Four character references are required to get the target and hunting permit (which I have).
Yes, I meant to include along with your letter. The more the better.
 
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Old 07-22-2009 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gobbles
MD doesn't issue permits to ANYONE other than retired LEO.....
Cool.....That must mean that there is no more gun crime in MD, right?

Good for them....wish MI would stop issuing permits, then the gun crime would go away in this state too....Duh.
 
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Old 07-22-2009 | 12:35 PM
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Cool.....That must mean that there is no more gun crime in MD, right?

Good for them....wish MI would stop issuing permits, then the gun crime would go away in this state too....Duh.
Right, and of course that is not what the statute says, that's just the practice.

Back in my Sheriff's office days I worked Corrections for a while. We had to document FIVE threats against our life by inmates before we could apply for a CCW with any reasonable expectation of receiving one, and even then it was rare.
 


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