Bill to limit N.J. gun purchases gets legislative approval - NJ.com


This has to be unconstitutional right? I cannot stand these democrats shitting on our rights. I found out from the guys at njgunforums.com, apparently it was a surprise vote at the wee hours of the morning last night. It did not give anyone the right to contact their local delegates to voice their opinions.

Any other NJ gun owners out their, please contact your local delegates and remind them that owning a gun in this country is a right given to us by the US constitution and that many men and women died for these rights.

If this is a sign of things to come I am seriously considering moving.

 

Why do you want to buy more than 12 hand guns per year Honestly, 1 a month is pretty damn much.

 

Its the point that its another feel good piece of legislation that does nothing against fighting actual crime. The truth is in this state most guns are brought in out of state and sold on the streets. Do they really think a criminal is going to go through the lengthy process of going INTO a police station, filling out 6 forms, go through a extensive background check, pay over 80$ in fees, get fingerprinted in the national database, and subject themselves to the 2-6 month waiting period to obtain just a license, just to buy ONE gun.

Its pretty obvious this just affects law abiding citizens and not actual criminals. Because Gun prices as well as ammo is really high I don't actually plan on buying a gun every week, its the point that this is just another step in the wrong direction against Gun ownership and allows this socialist nonsense and hype to brainwash citizens.

 

I don't think it will affect crime either, but is there really any reason why you'd need to buy that many guns in a month?
That's not socialism at all, personally I think it's more common sense that you can't buy more than 12 hand guns a year (really, what are you doing, misplacing them, throwing them at people? ), but it's not socialism.
I'd love to be able to own a hand gun (our gun laws are ridiculous) but I really can't see why you feel that you're limited if you still can buy a gun a month (sounds kind of like a good idea for a book of the month type club, doesn't it?)

 

^^The point is the legislation restricts law abiding people's ability to do something while doing NOTHING to prevent crime. It adds an extra layer of government and makes things harder for law-abiding citizens for absolutely zero benefit whatsoever. There is nothing positive that will result from this legislation at ALL.

 

The Permits to purchase handguns only last 90 days (and extra 90 is given under certain circumstances but not normally) and some towns limit the # of permits to 3 per application and each application takes several months to approve. So in actuality with the one per month rule you would only be able to get 3 guns per in the first three months and then have to re-apply for more permits which could take several months depending on where you live. So technically you wouldn't really be getting 12 guns per year more like 3-6 if that.

Its just mainly because its already a HUGE inconvenience for gun owners to purchase them and with gun sales escalating like its the end of the world, I guess it will be difficult to find a gun of your choice when you want to.

 

I'd say that the fewer guns that are available in society, be it legal or illegal, represents a risk for people being shot, either through accidental firing, the weapon being stolen etc. Still, this law will probably won't do jack for reducing crime, but it is common sense that you can not buy 5 guns a month. Hell, there are loads of laws that as a single law doesn't seem to make much sense, but does help when combined with other laws/LE policies and activities.
If they reduced it to one gun a year, I can see your point, but we're talking 12 a year, that's a huge chunk more than I'd say will affect the average Joe.

 

But is this law really affecting anybody?
Is there a real need to purchase 6 guns a year?
The biggest argument for owning hand guns is because you should have the right to defend your family, which you undoubtedly can do with a single gun purchase a month.

I see your point but I think that, just like many other laws that impair our actions, they may actually have a point.It's not a gun ban, not a ccw permit etc. it's merely an action to limit the number of guns you can buy per year. Over a period of time, you can still buy a lot of guns, an unless you're arming a private militia, I can't see the rush of acquiring 20 guns

 

Why is that "common sense"?
Why should you be able to go out and buy a high performance car? Surely the availability should be restricted to save lives, besides you don't need it anyways.

So many people have an irrational fear of firearms, and this is an example.

The bigger point is that we are supposed to be a free society, made up of laws. A free, law abiding man should be able to buy as many firearms in a month as he wants. These are laws that are set up to criminalize law abiding people in an attempt to limit freedom and provide more control to the government. Meaning, this is nothing more than an attempt to limit freedom.

 

Yes, it affects law abiding people who are firearms collectors for absolutely no good reason.

Cars, baseball bats, kitchen utensils, bare hands, rope, kills more people than firearms.

This is a law to criminalize people period.