Pagani Huayra Top Gear (Spoiler Alert)
#221
My personal view is that Pagani got just a little too greedy. They already have rave reviews about performance and craftsmanship, and rightly so. But its obvious that you don't buy a Huayra simply for going fast- if that were the case there are a ton of other options. You buy a Pagani for the whole package. Craftsmanship, uniqueness from other cars, good drivability, e.t.c. The automotive world has acknowledged this. But for whatever reason, Pagani decided it wasn't good enough. They wanted the TG record too (probably to sit nicely with the Zonda Rs time). Unfortunately for them, they got caught out and now they are in a sticky situation. Plus their squeaky clean reputation is in the dumps.
Ok Peloton, I understand you are not pleased, but I again ask you to put this into perspective. Let’s not forget that your beloved McLaren incurred the largest fine ever imposed in motor racing history of $100 million in 2007 for cheating. In case anyone has forgotten the details are here:
Formula 1® - The Official F1® Website
To a lesser degree others have done very similar things all in the hope of gaining an edge. As the Artist has stated people seem to be jumping on the band wagon now just to have a dig.
Formula 1® - The Official F1® Website
To a lesser degree others have done very similar things all in the hope of gaining an edge. As the Artist has stated people seem to be jumping on the band wagon now just to have a dig.
The reason this is such a big issue is because Pagani has never been caught doing something like this previously. Until now, they were pretty much the angels of the automotive industry with a squeaky clean reputation. They could do no wrong. But now they've proved otherwise, It begs the question: what other bull**** are they prepared to do? And what have they previously done without being caught? To draw from Hammonds comment: Pagani no longer have that 'innocence' imo.
I think the Lance Armstrong analogy is appropriate here.
It wouldn't have been half as bad if they hadn't issued the press release trying to convince us all that they were street tyres. Like Matt has said, how stupid do they think we are? (You know, fool me once and all that.)
As for Top Gear? They must have known, but it doesn't really surprise me. At the end of the day, its an entertainment show. Most of their stuff is staged anyway. (thats not to say I dont hugely enjoy it).
As far as Pagani is concerned, it just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of fans like myself. Whilst I still love the brand (and their cars), I've lost a little of the massive respect I used to have for them.
Last edited by ZondaTricolore; 03-01-2013 at 12:05 PM.
#222
A message I've just sent to Pirelli, through the "Contact Us" function on their official website:
Hello,
I'm sure you've been made aware of the the controversey surrounding the tires fitted to the Pagani Huayra when tested on the popular BBC automotive show Top Gear, during its Power Lap segment.
It has been my assertion that the tires in question are Pirelli racing slicks with grooves cut into them, for the purpose of achieving a faster lap time than would have been possible using the Huayra's standard-issue tires.
Pagani has confirmed in an official statement that the tires used by the Huayra for its Power Lap were in fact modified Zonda R racing slicks. They further went on to say that these tires were street legal.
It's my understanding that the constructution and certification processes for street legal tires are vastly different and more stringent than for racing tires. It is also my understanding that there are sidewall labelling requirements for street legal tires, that appear to be lacking from the Huayra's Power Lap tires, upon inspection of photographic evidence of said tires.
Based on this knowledge, it has been my conclusion that the modified Zonda R racing slicks that were fitted to the Huayra for the purpose of its Power Lap could not possibly be street legal as Pagani has stated.
I would appreciate your feedback on this manner. In addition, due to significant automotive press coverage of this situation, and the contradictions between Pagani's statement and known street tire design practice, I feel that an official Pirelli statement would be warranted at this time.
Hello,
I'm sure you've been made aware of the the controversey surrounding the tires fitted to the Pagani Huayra when tested on the popular BBC automotive show Top Gear, during its Power Lap segment.
It has been my assertion that the tires in question are Pirelli racing slicks with grooves cut into them, for the purpose of achieving a faster lap time than would have been possible using the Huayra's standard-issue tires.
Pagani has confirmed in an official statement that the tires used by the Huayra for its Power Lap were in fact modified Zonda R racing slicks. They further went on to say that these tires were street legal.
It's my understanding that the constructution and certification processes for street legal tires are vastly different and more stringent than for racing tires. It is also my understanding that there are sidewall labelling requirements for street legal tires, that appear to be lacking from the Huayra's Power Lap tires, upon inspection of photographic evidence of said tires.
Based on this knowledge, it has been my conclusion that the modified Zonda R racing slicks that were fitted to the Huayra for the purpose of its Power Lap could not possibly be street legal as Pagani has stated.
I would appreciate your feedback on this manner. In addition, due to significant automotive press coverage of this situation, and the contradictions between Pagani's statement and known street tire design practice, I feel that an official Pirelli statement would be warranted at this time.
#223
Well you will be glad to know that Pagani are still claiming the record at the Geneva show as you can see below. But a bit of a Freudian slip with the "hype car of the year"
Last edited by streetrod454; 03-04-2013 at 02:33 PM.