Originally Posted by streetrod454

I have a great deal of respect for Ron, he tends not to say things unless he has the facts to back them up but I must admit on this occasion he could have used less inflammatory language.

But if you look past the language he does have a point. As has been said the Veyron is a technical master piece to a point but lets get things in perspective. The Veyron requires 4 turbos and 1000hp to do 254mph, the F1 15 years previously only needed 600+hp to do 243mph, now is that progress?

Let’s looks a little deeper. BMW have stated that a well maintained F1 engine is good for 250,000miles without a major strip down, the Veyron engine on the other hand is a time bomb unless it has very regular maintenance.

Now check this out, this info was compiled by EVO magazine that do have a reputation for getting their facts right:



At the end of the article there is a little table that gives some info on the costs of servicing, a clutch, tyres, wheels (but only for the Veyron), depreciation, total costs and then cost per mile, this is where it gets interesting. Figures are based on 3000 miles a year over 4 years of ownership buying from new.

Despite an Enzo costing £14k to service over a 4 year period, £9k for two clutches (they only last 6000 miles), £3600 for tyres it's actually gone up in value to such a degree that even with these costs it actually pays you £18.53 a mile to drive it (minus other costs like fuel). It’s gone up £250,000 in value from new.

The Zonda S is equally nice; it only pays you £4.02 to own it each mile but "only" costs £4320 for services, its increased £55k in value from new. Minor service is £1800, major £2520; plugs last 36,000 miles and valves clearances never need checking because they are self-adjusting.

"One owner describes running Zonda as being like owning a 3-series; having covered 19,000 trouble-free miles in his car since buying it new 6 years ago, his cost per mile works out at 55p including servicing and tyres"

Then we start losing a bit.

Carrera GT, £12,000 for services (only one official service centre in the UK, £1200 for an interim, £2784 for a main and then £6000 for the big one every 4 years where the engine comes out and the £5000 clutch is probably replaced), £80,000 depreciation, cost £7.87 per mile. If you need a new wheel expect to pay £5500 each, magnesium costs money.

Mercedes SLR, £14,400 for services (£2100, £3700 and £6500), £163,465 depreciation, costs £19.97 per mile.

And the big one...

Veyron, £56,000 for services (£13,465 for the first service, £6000 of that is labour), £101,200 for tyres (need to be replaced every 2500 miles according to Bugatti), £29,900 for 4 new wheels (replaced on every third set of tyres as recommended by Bugatti), £275,000 depreciation - £38.51 per mile, popping to the shop for a loaf of bread is expensive stuff!

An F1's costs by comparison dont even come close, like the Enzo, if you bought from new it is paying you