Officially official: The 2011 Porsche Cayman R to debut in Los Angeles
#62
So if Porsche had named it "Cayman Sport" would there be less backlash? What about the Golf R? Should that be burned at the stake, too?
Honestly, it's ridiculous. It's still a lightweight, high-horsepower, well-optioned (if carbon fiber buckets and LSDs are your thing) Porsche. I'm still a fan, will be a fan, and hope to buy and keep this thing forever. Ignore the name, look at the car. It's $5K more than a Cayman S, but faster, better seats, sports PASM, LSD, etc. I just don't get the hate. It's like the retarded arguments I heard on Rennlist when I talked about the RS5... No entiendo.
Honestly, it's ridiculous. It's still a lightweight, high-horsepower, well-optioned (if carbon fiber buckets and LSDs are your thing) Porsche. I'm still a fan, will be a fan, and hope to buy and keep this thing forever. Ignore the name, look at the car. It's $5K more than a Cayman S, but faster, better seats, sports PASM, LSD, etc. I just don't get the hate. It's like the retarded arguments I heard on Rennlist when I talked about the RS5... No entiendo.
#63
So if Porsche had named it "Cayman Sport" would there be less backlash? What about the Golf R? Should that be burned at the stake, too?
Honestly, it's ridiculous. It's still a lightweight, high-horsepower, well-optioned (if carbon fiber buckets and LSDs are your thing) Porsche. I'm still a fan, will be a fan, and hope to buy and keep this thing forever. Ignore the name, look at the car. It's $5K more than a Cayman S, but faster, better seats, sports PASM, LSD, etc. I just don't get the hate. It's like the retarded arguments I heard on Rennlist when I talked about the RS5... No entiendo.
Honestly, it's ridiculous. It's still a lightweight, high-horsepower, well-optioned (if carbon fiber buckets and LSDs are your thing) Porsche. I'm still a fan, will be a fan, and hope to buy and keep this thing forever. Ignore the name, look at the car. It's $5K more than a Cayman S, but faster, better seats, sports PASM, LSD, etc. I just don't get the hate. It's like the retarded arguments I heard on Rennlist when I talked about the RS5... No entiendo.
#65
Should have come with coilovers like the GT3. Honestly, the car is growing on me and for $5k more it doesn't seem all that bad.
I still don't like the name. Should have gone with Cayman RS or Cayman CS IMO. I was really considering ordering one of these for when I'm permanently living in Houston (probably sell the M3), but now I'm back to '08 GT3s.
I still don't like the name. Should have gone with Cayman RS or Cayman CS IMO. I was really considering ordering one of these for when I'm permanently living in Houston (probably sell the M3), but now I'm back to '08 GT3s.
Last edited by "The JC"; Nov 18, 2010 at 09:28 PM.
#66
Should have come with coilovers like the GT3. Honestly, the car is growing on me and for $5k more it doesn't seem all that bad.
I still don't like the name. Should have gone with Cayman RS or Cayman CS IMO. I was really considering ordering one of these for when I'm permanently living in Houston (probably sell the M3), but now I'm back to '08 GT3s.
I still don't like the name. Should have gone with Cayman RS or Cayman CS IMO. I was really considering ordering one of these for when I'm permanently living in Houston (probably sell the M3), but now I'm back to '08 GT3s.
I just don't like that Porsche are trying to pass this off as Special. It has almost nothing to set it apart from the normal Cayman.
#67
I think one of the reasons for the hate is the color Porsche chose to show it in. Not exactly the most appealing color to some people. Also, I think if Porsche gave this car a ducktail, Boxster rear bumper, and a Spyder style front end (yet not a direct copy), than everyone would love this car.
From Autoexpress via an interview with Matthias Müller.
"Flat-four engine for Boxster and Cayman
A new flat four-cylinder engine is being developed by Porsche to power the next generation of Boxster and Cayman models.
The engine, which will be developed from the firm's existing flat-six cylinder unit, is just one of a range of more fuel efficient, less polluting engines under development at the firm."
From Autoexpress via an interview with Matthias Müller.
"Flat-four engine for Boxster and Cayman
A new flat four-cylinder engine is being developed by Porsche to power the next generation of Boxster and Cayman models.
The engine, which will be developed from the firm's existing flat-six cylinder unit, is just one of a range of more fuel efficient, less polluting engines under development at the firm."
#68
^Honestly don't think the color had anything to do with the reactions. Sportscars are launched in ridiculous colors all the time. The lack of certain 'spyder' body work, however, seems a likely cause for the less than stellar reactions in this thread. I think JCay nails it in the last paragraph of his post above.
As I and others have mentioned before, we were expecting a true 'RS' version of the Cayman. A car that is long over due, which should share certain performance parts (ie, coilovers, half cage, etc.)
Let's face it, on very windy back roads and tight/technical tracks, the cayman is a more entertaining/engaging car then the 911. Therefore, a hardcore, track focused Cayman would be very desirable. I think this car provides a great platform, but would it just be easier to buy a used 'S' and tune the he'll out of it?
As I and others have mentioned before, we were expecting a true 'RS' version of the Cayman. A car that is long over due, which should share certain performance parts (ie, coilovers, half cage, etc.)
Let's face it, on very windy back roads and tight/technical tracks, the cayman is a more entertaining/engaging car then the 911. Therefore, a hardcore, track focused Cayman would be very desirable. I think this car provides a great platform, but would it just be easier to buy a used 'S' and tune the he'll out of it?
#69
As JCay said, it really is a good value compared to the Cayman S but I also agree that it needs the Boxster Spyder front bumper and ducktail. It's not a huge step forward technically, but the enhancements are definitely there and the price isn't nuts.
That being said, based on what used to wear the "R" badge back in Porsche's early days, I don't think this is a big enough step to warrant that name. I'd have called it the Cayman RS, CS, or GT.
That being said, based on what used to wear the "R" badge back in Porsche's early days, I don't think this is a big enough step to warrant that name. I'd have called it the Cayman RS, CS, or GT.




