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Thoughts on high barrier to entry for racing?

Old Aug 24, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by A3aan
Only top 3 in F1 actually makes money, the rest has to pay... The drivers aren't the best either, there just having fun, but there are many much better drivers that can't afford F1.

The best example must be Valentino Rossi, I remember that he had the opportunity to drive an Ferrari F1 car once, on that first day he broke all records Schumi had on that track
I am sure you are joking because that is not true.....
 
Old Aug 24, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ADV.1 Matt
I just started getting really into F1 last year and have never really been interested in Nascar but as I get more familiar with all the ins and outs of professional race teams (Specifically F1) and the massive expense to run and operate these teams I guess i'm a bit disheartened to find out almost all of the current F1 drivers were/are multimillionaires prior to coming into the sport and some get to drive specifically because their family can bring X millions to the team for the year.

Button's Dad... rich. Hamilton's Dad... rich. Webber seems to be one of the few that truly fought his way up through the ranks over a long time unless i'm missing something?

I guess part of me wishes that talent and talent alone would determine who the elite drivers are in the world but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I guess as with any sport - those that succeed start at a young age and have the financial backing to do so (be it football or go karts). Just wanted to know what you guys all thought on it?

Has there been a time in F1 when a true grass roots come from nothing hero was given the chance to compete on the world stage based on their raw talent?
Hamilton actually came from a very humble background. It's only now that he's a superstar that his father is wealthy. Your point still stands somewhat though. He was backed by McLaren for his upper level karting and open wheel racing.
 
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Minardi had some interesting thoughts on this subject today.

Former Minardi Boss: Young Drivers Need More F1 Opportunities - Written by David Bean
 
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Its a large catch 22.

If you don't have your own cash you need sponsors. To get sponsors you need a full ride. But to get a full ride you need cash.

Even your grand am teams cost to run. For a mid pack continental tire team you are looking at 7-12k per weekend.

Trust me been in the situation where I was there to race for the weekend free of charge but a paid driver came in and I got bumped on dozens of occasions.

Just a fact of life cash = speed.

A great race car driver can not win with a slow car and vice versa.
 
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Originally Posted by bdeitemeyer
Link to source on that? I thought I recall him setting decent lap times (within a second or two of typical F1 drivers), but no records.

Anyhow, that's not a great example. If you'll recall last year's season finale and the testing that took place shortly thereafter...Ricciardo's best time in Vettel's car was quicker than the pole for that final GP, but it just means that with enough time to set hot lap after hot lap anything can happen (especially with variable weather conditions).
Comparing the Doctor and Kimi. IMO MotoGP is the pinnacle of motorsports.

MotoGP rider Valentino Rossi tests 2008 Ferrari F1 in Spain - YouTube
 
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Also just for reference RBR pay their drivers lower base rate (both MW and SV the same unlike in that link above) and a bulk of their payments are made up of bonuses from WDC points and results..
 
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