The Official F1 Malaysian Grand Prix Banter and Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]
#11
True, But the Ferrari and the McMercs are quick enough to beat every other team except Brawn having said that though I believe Ferrari, Mclaren, Toyota, Williams, RBR, Renault, BMW are within a couple of tenths of each other Brawn however is easily a half second quicker than the rest of the pack
#12
Getting a little ahead of your self aren't ya Alex
True, But the Ferrari and the McMercs are quick enough to beat every other team except Brawn having said that though I believe Ferrari, Mclaren, Toyota, Williams, RBR, Renault, BMW are within a couple of tenths of each other Brawn however is easily a half second quicker than the rest of the pack
True, But the Ferrari and the McMercs are quick enough to beat every other team except Brawn having said that though I believe Ferrari, Mclaren, Toyota, Williams, RBR, Renault, BMW are within a couple of tenths of each other Brawn however is easily a half second quicker than the rest of the pack
#13
Don't any of you guys thin that Kubica would have caught Button had he not crashed? Heck, I think Vettel had a chance to reel him in. Kubica was gaining nearly a half a second per sector with 2 laps to go. He was making his move. I think the whole Brawn GP fairy tale would have been much less dramatic had Kubica and Vettel not taken each other out. In the end, Jenson and Rubens benefitted as much from that crash as Lewis did.
#14
McLaren is not optimistic about its chances in Malaysia.
McLaren expects to struggle at Sepang
By Jonathan Noble and Matt Beer Monday, March 30th 2009, 09:56 GMT
McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh has warned that Lewis Hamilton's surprise third place in Melbourne does not mean the team's problems are solved, and expects another very tough weekend in Malaysia.
Hamilton came from the back of the grid to third thanks to a charging drive and good strategy in Australia, although he also benefited from some of the attrition ahead.
The world champion and his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen had been in the midfield throughout practice and qualifying, and Whitmarsh said McLaren therefore had low expectations for Sepang.
"Frankly I think Malaysia will be very tough for this season," he said. "I think we will improve the car but I think it is a high-speed, technical circuit, we are lacking in downforce at the moment and therefore it is going to be tough."
The team will introduce further new parts at Sepang in a bid to catch up with the frontrunners.
"We have an aggressive development strategy, we have to pick up the performance of the car," said Whitmarsh. "We will have new parts at all of the next races and we have to keep pushing until we are quick enough to reliably score points."
He put the Melbourne result mainly down to Hamilton's driving.
"Overall for McLaren it was better than we could have expected," said Whitmarsh. "A third place, given the performance of the car, shows that Lewis had tremendous discipline.
"I think the team had a good strategy, we took some risks by starting on the softer option tyres, we stopped early enough and thereafter Lewis got stuck in there and did some fantastic overtaking.
"He is unaccustomed to having to drive from the back of the grid like that, but overall it was a demonstration of what a great world champion he is. He did a great job for us today."
By Jonathan Noble and Matt Beer Monday, March 30th 2009, 09:56 GMT
McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh has warned that Lewis Hamilton's surprise third place in Melbourne does not mean the team's problems are solved, and expects another very tough weekend in Malaysia.
Hamilton came from the back of the grid to third thanks to a charging drive and good strategy in Australia, although he also benefited from some of the attrition ahead.
The world champion and his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen had been in the midfield throughout practice and qualifying, and Whitmarsh said McLaren therefore had low expectations for Sepang.
"Frankly I think Malaysia will be very tough for this season," he said. "I think we will improve the car but I think it is a high-speed, technical circuit, we are lacking in downforce at the moment and therefore it is going to be tough."
The team will introduce further new parts at Sepang in a bid to catch up with the frontrunners.
"We have an aggressive development strategy, we have to pick up the performance of the car," said Whitmarsh. "We will have new parts at all of the next races and we have to keep pushing until we are quick enough to reliably score points."
He put the Melbourne result mainly down to Hamilton's driving.
"Overall for McLaren it was better than we could have expected," said Whitmarsh. "A third place, given the performance of the car, shows that Lewis had tremendous discipline.
"I think the team had a good strategy, we took some risks by starting on the softer option tyres, we stopped early enough and thereafter Lewis got stuck in there and did some fantastic overtaking.
"He is unaccustomed to having to drive from the back of the grid like that, but overall it was a demonstration of what a great world champion he is. He did a great job for us today."
#15
Don't any of you guys thin that Kubica would have caught Button had he not crashed? Heck, I think Vettel had a chance to reel him in. Kubica was gaining nearly a half a second per sector with 2 laps to go. He was making his move. I think the whole Brawn GP fairy tale would have been much less dramatic had Kubica and Vettel not taken each other out. In the end, Jenson and Rubens benefitted as much from that crash as Lewis did.
I dont think Jensen was on the limit towards the end, you could see that he wasn't even on the racing line going through some turns. If Vettel or Kubica had started to make inroads on him, I think he would have been able to pick up the pace.
I agree with the drama aspect though, although it was a fairy tale win. The 1/2 was just the icing on the cake that made them seem more dominant than they really were.
#16
My 2 cents
The way I see it the new regulations not only erased the performance gap between Ferrari, Mclaren and the rest of the field it put the once dominant duo on the back burner. The FIA knew what it was doing when they introduced the new regs; its only natural that the teams fighting for the championships will continue developing their 2008 cars while the rest of the field worked on the 09 car. Now if it weren't for the drastic changes in the rules the front runners wouldn't be hurting now because their 2009 car would be a tweaked and honed version of the 2008 car, in my estimation the 2008 car was atleast 85% of the 2007 car. However with the new regulations Ferrari and Mclaren payed the penalty of success by starting late on the 09 car while Brawn(Honda) arguably the most miserable car of 2008 is currently the leader because I believe Ross Brawn stoped development of the 08 car and started working on the 09 car as early as the Bahrain GP last year. Now this isn't sour grapes I applaud Ross Brawn as a genius because even BMW Sauber started development early I'd say by the end of the Montreal GP and Brawn managed blistering pace. The way things stand now there are three classes in F1 Brawn in a league of their own(leading the pace by half a second), next are the midfield with RBR, Williams, Toyota and BMW leading the midfield while Ferrari , Renault and Mclaren are at the end of the midfield in that order(not much between them a tenth or two at the most) and finally you have STR and force India in the back but the STR is much faster than the Force India yet not fast enough to compete in the midfield. You can bet that the boys at Fiorano and Woking are working tirelessly to remedy the situation but how soon will the solutions come with a ban on testing now that's the $64,000 question.
#19
I was thinking about the race a little more this morning. On Saturday I posted the laps that I predicted each driver would pit based *only* on fuel load. And boy was I wrong!!! Why was I wrong? Well, as we all saw, the teams had to adjust to a tire strategy over fuel strategy. Teams like Ferrari, who started on the soft compounds, came in after 9 laps! This threw the pack into even more uncertainty as it was unclear how the leaders, who started on the hard compounds, would manage at the end of the race. So my post this morning is on Bridgestone and tire compounds.
I don't know what to make of tires as a variable. It wasn't this way last year or the year before. But I heard the commentators on Speed (or maybe it was the BBC guys) saying how Bridgestone *purposefully* brought two compounds to the race that were that were "very" different from each other. It was the commentators' opinion--based on info they had received--that Bridgestone wanted to see the teams "deal" with divergent compounds. The softs were super soft. The hard were super hard. There was a wide margin between them. This is why there was such a performance gap between them on track.
Part of me thinks that Bridgestone shouldn't have such a powerful role in the race. That is, they should bring tires that are best suited for the cars and conditions as best they can tell during the week ahead. They shouldn't be able to make tires such a factor in the race, as we saw this weekend. The other part of me loves it. It makes for another kink in the whole process that the teams have to "deal" with and adjust to real time. Some teams had absolutely no trouble dealing with both compounds, like Brawn. Others tore up the softs within a few laps. Anyhow, I just thought about the race more and the increasingly active role Bridgestone seems to have taken this year. Tire compounds are a factor to keep an eye on.
I don't know what to make of tires as a variable. It wasn't this way last year or the year before. But I heard the commentators on Speed (or maybe it was the BBC guys) saying how Bridgestone *purposefully* brought two compounds to the race that were that were "very" different from each other. It was the commentators' opinion--based on info they had received--that Bridgestone wanted to see the teams "deal" with divergent compounds. The softs were super soft. The hard were super hard. There was a wide margin between them. This is why there was such a performance gap between them on track.
Part of me thinks that Bridgestone shouldn't have such a powerful role in the race. That is, they should bring tires that are best suited for the cars and conditions as best they can tell during the week ahead. They shouldn't be able to make tires such a factor in the race, as we saw this weekend. The other part of me loves it. It makes for another kink in the whole process that the teams have to "deal" with and adjust to real time. Some teams had absolutely no trouble dealing with both compounds, like Brawn. Others tore up the softs within a few laps. Anyhow, I just thought about the race more and the increasingly active role Bridgestone seems to have taken this year. Tire compounds are a factor to keep an eye on.




