S Tronic
#11
Ummm....I think your on crack.
SMG=crap
Sure the tranny will shift for you at redline because it is a failsafe designed to prevent the driver from bouncing off of the rev limiter. That is not a design flaw by any means
The S Tronic transmissions are quite fast and smooth if you know how to drive them and know how they behave. Have you driven the new S4 or read any of the reviews on its S Tronic? The transmission is getting outstanding reviews and so is the unit in the RS5
And why would Porsche AG use Audis DSG technology when designing their PDK tranny if it were so slow at shifting??
SMG=crap
Sure the tranny will shift for you at redline because it is a failsafe designed to prevent the driver from bouncing off of the rev limiter. That is not a design flaw by any means
The S Tronic transmissions are quite fast and smooth if you know how to drive them and know how they behave. Have you driven the new S4 or read any of the reviews on its S Tronic? The transmission is getting outstanding reviews and so is the unit in the RS5
And why would Porsche AG use Audis DSG technology when designing their PDK tranny if it were so slow at shifting??
#13
Ummm....I think your on crack.
SMG=crap
Sure the tranny will shift for you at redline because it is a failsafe designed to prevent the driver from bouncing off of the rev limiter. That is not a design flaw by any means
The S Tronic transmissions are quite fast and smooth if you know how to drive them and know how they behave. Have you driven the new S4 or read any of the reviews on its S Tronic? The transmission is getting outstanding reviews and so is the unit in the RS5
And why would Porsche AG use Audis DSG technology when designing their PDK tranny if it were so slow at shifting??
SMG=crap
Sure the tranny will shift for you at redline because it is a failsafe designed to prevent the driver from bouncing off of the rev limiter. That is not a design flaw by any means
The S Tronic transmissions are quite fast and smooth if you know how to drive them and know how they behave. Have you driven the new S4 or read any of the reviews on its S Tronic? The transmission is getting outstanding reviews and so is the unit in the RS5
And why would Porsche AG use Audis DSG technology when designing their PDK tranny if it were so slow at shifting??
Upshifting at redline is crap. Try driving a car that upshifts for you at an Autox, and see how you like it.
And I have had lots of track time in an E46 M3 with SMG, it does not lag in S5 or S6.
And BTW, PDK is not the same as the Audi stuff, not by a long shot.
#14
Tt is the normal DSG, because it rev matches perfectly on downshifts.
#15
You didn't even read my post did you?
Upshifting at redline is crap. Try driving a car that upshifts for you at an Autox, and see how you like it.
And I have had lots of track time in an E46 M3 with SMG, it does not lag in S5 or S6.
And BTW, PDK is not the same as the Audi stuff, not by a long shot.
Upshifting at redline is crap. Try driving a car that upshifts for you at an Autox, and see how you like it.
And I have had lots of track time in an E46 M3 with SMG, it does not lag in S5 or S6.
And BTW, PDK is not the same as the Audi stuff, not by a long shot.
Last edited by Tommy6030; 10-28-2010 at 04:21 PM.
#16
And I've also done many autocross events including one in a Z4 with SMG and it was awful. I've also tracked with R Tronic and S Tronic and had no issues with the car wanting to shift for me
We can go back and forth all day but we aren't going to agree.
We also just traded an E46 M3 at our store with SMG and it is the roughest shifting machine I've ever been in. Hop out of that and into a B8 S4 and they are night and day...
Thats why I'm not a fan of SMG and never will be. Plus I believe the A3 DSG shifts in 8 milliseconds which is lightning fast
Last edited by Tommy6030; 10-28-2010 at 04:26 PM.
#17
Personally, after spending enough time with the SMG I get it and LIKE it. It requires your attention, like a m/t car. And works best in the fastest M mode. You can do throttle lift with it like a m/t.
Oh wait............it IS a m/t..............just hydraulically assisted.
Double Clutch Transmissions are sewing machine efficient and .............boring.
Oh wait............it IS a m/t..............just hydraulically assisted.
Double Clutch Transmissions are sewing machine efficient and .............boring.
#18
Personally, after spending enough time with the SMG I get it and LIKE it. It requires your attention, like a m/t car. And works best in the fastest M mode. You can do throttle lift with it like a m/t.
Oh wait............it IS a m/t..............just hydraulically assisted.
Double Clutch Transmissions are sewing machine efficient and .............boring.
Oh wait............it IS a m/t..............just hydraulically assisted.
Double Clutch Transmissions are sewing machine efficient and .............boring.
Last edited by Tommy6030; 10-28-2010 at 04:42 PM.