Dodge Viper takes latest Nürburgring record with a 7:12 run
Sep 16, 2011 | 07:05 PM
#31
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Fair question.
When the Viper was run for the 7:22 it was run by a driver who was unfamiliar with the car, and they only ran a few laps for the record. There was no extensive practice sessions.
Same goes with the new record. Those are the only 2 times dodge has sent an ACR to the ring. Nissan, Porsche, and Lexus on the other hand have been back and forth at the ring for years with their flagships. Nissan even commented about their car being designed at the ring. They easily have 100s of laps on it with drivers familiar with the car and very familiar with the track. That is a HUGE advantage. It's no secret.
When the Viper was run for the 7:22 it was run by a driver who was unfamiliar with the car, and they only ran a few laps for the record. There was no extensive practice sessions.
Same goes with the new record. Those are the only 2 times dodge has sent an ACR to the ring. Nissan, Porsche, and Lexus on the other hand have been back and forth at the ring for years with their flagships. Nissan even commented about their car being designed at the ring. They easily have 100s of laps on it with drivers familiar with the car and very familiar with the track. That is a HUGE advantage. It's no secret.
Sep 17, 2011 | 05:52 PM
#32
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It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
Sep 17, 2011 | 06:20 PM
#33
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That's all just talk, I know the driver who set the record.
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
Also, I call BS that you know the driver that set the record.
Sep 17, 2011 | 09:30 PM
#34
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That's all just talk, I know the driver who set the record.
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
Like I posted in the other thread, while Tom Coronel was driving one of the cars, he did not set the record, Dominik Farnbacher did.
Sep 18, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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@ViperACR: thanks for the info
Sep 18, 2011 | 12:16 PM
#38
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That's all just talk, I know the driver who set the record.
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
Regardless of any politics that may or may not be behind this, that is an extremely fast lap time. That is not debatable. The car and driver deserve some recognition.
Sep 18, 2011 | 12:21 PM
#39
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That's all just talk, I know the driver who set the record.
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...
Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc
Sep 20, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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And I've heard a lot of people cry about the Viper's tires or it's aero kit. My answer to them is so what? The ZR1 cost at least $20k more than the Viper. They both went after the same goal - having the fastest car both in a straight line and around a track for a good price. Each company went about it a different way. The ZR1 has carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber panels for weight savings, and many other goodies that the Viper does not. If you truly want to make it "fair", let the ZR1 add an aero kit. But take the cost of that aero kit, add that with the extra $20k for the ZR1, and then allow the Viper to add goodies worth that amount to the ACR so you have two truly equal cars. IMHO the Viper will still beat the shit out of the ZR1. Especially if you are running multiple laps and the vette begins to heat soak thanks to its blower.