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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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First production McLaren F1 with 300 miles for sale



Priced at $3,175,000 (€2,582,560) wow!
The first production McLaren F1 has been put up for sale on Jameslist.com. Priced at $3,175,000 (€2,582,560), the 1995 model only has 300 miles on the odometer. It features silver paint, a 6.1-liter BMW V12 engine, and an enduring legacy as one of the greatest cars ever built.

As you may recall, the F1 became the world's fastest production car in 1998 when it hit a top speed of 240.14 mph (386.5 km/h). It was later succeeded by the
Koenigsegg CCR, Bugatti Veyron, SSC Ultimate Aero, and Bugatti Veyron Super Sport.

The F1 is being put up for sale by Gemballa North America. We can't help but wonder if the
disappearance of Uwe Gemballa and the subsequent insolvency of his company instigated the sale of this modern automotive gem.
First production McLaren F1 with 300 miles for sale
 
Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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waiting for a certain someone to chime in here
 
Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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MikeS posted something about this -

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Originally Posted by Peloton25
Had not seen it, but I question the legitimacy of the ad. The first F1 built after the prototypes was #002 for the Brunei Royal Family painted Dorchester Grey. Here's an image of it:



The car in the photos on Jameslist is #013 when it was for sale at BingoSports in Japan back in January 2009.

The ad may be referring to chassis #001 which was silver, but the year they have listed of 1995 would be incorrect. Here is that car:



Last but not least the asking price is far too low for the first car with almost no mileage. I have a feeling that if #001 were available it would exceed the price #062 just brought by a considerable amount.

I remain skeptical but thanks for the heads up sir.

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Originally Posted by Ludas
This was the first car to go to sale following five prototypes and is currently owned by Gembella North America. Yes, that Gemballa.

Is this correct Eric?
Originally Posted by Peloton25
I'll just say that nothing in the ad jives with anything I know.

As I said in my reply on Jalopnik - hold onto your checkbook.

I sent an email to the seller about 30 mins ago asking for lots of clarification. I give it about a 50/50 chance of getting a reply.

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Originally Posted by Peloton25
No reply from the seller but the ad has been changed and no longer references this as the first F1. My guess now is that this is a broker trying to market a particular F1 which is in Japan and almost fits the description.

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all hail Peloton, the f1 expert!
 
Old Aug 17, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Peloton is a McLaren F1 genius.
 
Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Seems like the story is true and this actually is no 01 with only 300 miles.

For sale: McLaren F1 (3175000 USD), USA, California, Los Angeles - JamesList
 
Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Ludas - please explain your logic for making such a claim?

The ad has been altered from how it was originally composed and no longer makes any mention of the "first F1". Perhaps you're seeing a cached version of it, but for the record it now reads in full:

For Sale: McLaren F1 1995 NEW CAR NEUWAGEN 300 MIL FROM NEW

1995 McLAREN F1 AS NEW ORIGINAL 300 MIL. The McLaren F1 ia a supercar engineered and produced by the Mclaren Car's , a subsidiary of the British McLaren Group that,among others,owns McLaren Mercedes Formular One team The Car features a 6.1-litre 60*V12 BMW V12 engine and it was conceived as an exercise in creating what its designers hoped would be considered the ulimate road car.only 100 cars were manufactured , 65 of those were street cars 5 were LMs, 3 GTs and the rest were GTR racing models Production began in 1992 , prior to the sale of the McLaren F1 fife prototypes were built The McLaren was the fastes production Car ever built (having achieved a top speed of 240.14 mph 386.5 kmuntil surpassed in 2005 by the Koenigsegg CCR and then the Bugatti Veyron a few moths later. The Car remains as one of the most popular modern supercars, and is quickly securing a spot among the most famous cars ever made.
We can arrange Enclosed Transport within the main USA International Air-freight

For more info please contact:
Heinz Meis
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Logically speaking, there is absolutely no way that a Jameslist ad would be the method employed to sell the first F1. On top of that, firsts and lasts of something always command tremendous interest and therefore the asking price here is far too low considering a middle of the production range car just sold for more than that with 10x the mileage.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Peloton25
Ludas - please explain your logic for making such a claim?

The ad has been altered from how it was originally composed and no longer makes any mention of the "first F1". Perhaps you're seeing a cached version of it, but for the record it now reads in full:



Logically speaking, there is absolutely no way that a Jameslist ad would be the method employed to sell the first F1. On top of that, firsts and lasts of something always command tremendous interest and therefore the asking price here is far too low considering a middle of the production range car just sold for more than that with 10x the mileage.

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Ok chill out man. I'm not trying to fool anyone here, I just read the article on GTspirit about this car where they namedropped jameslist.com and thought that it might be a credible source.
I don't know as much about which sites to trust in these matters as you do so no need to bite my head off.
 
Old Aug 18, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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I'm not upset - your comment just did not make sense.

All of the articles referencing the sale of this car originated from the Jameslist ad which as noted has now been altered from the original wording.

Keep in mind the spread of misinformation helps no one and I do my best to clarify and correct that when it comes to the F1 as often as possible.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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