Death of the Manual
Jun 26, 2012 | 10:12 AM
#31
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To each his own, trust me I daily drove my Stradale for 2 months and even though it wasn't a 6MT you want rock hard and bone jarring and hard ride try that out a 933 or an M3 are Cadillacs compared to that. I also daily drove not one but 2 997 GT3's .1 and .2 so I know what direction I am coming from 
Jun 26, 2012 | 11:15 AM
#32
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in euroland you got sticks on lower end cars,..you learn it at driving school,..
every crap car is a MT
so here it`s nothing special,..and more of a luxury to have an AT to save nerves in traffic
in the US it`s the other way round,..AT is standard,MT is something special,..for the car guys and "good drivers",..you can set yourself apart from the rest by knowing how to drive a stick properly,..it`s cool,almost fashionable
how many times does one drive his DD at the performance level where a stick makes fun?
not all that often compared to the time on sits in traffic or rolls down the highway in a massive stream of cars
PDK,DCT etc are good compromises here,..offering both manual and auto mode
plus it`s faster and being faster equates to fun as well
a bit digitalized,less raw etc but it does the job,e.g changing gears(fast)
a much much greater concern for me is the future of car weights and engine tech
a 2 tons M3 with a triple turbo 4 cylinder would be like...hell on earth
every crap car is a MT
so here it`s nothing special,..and more of a luxury to have an AT to save nerves in traffic
in the US it`s the other way round,..AT is standard,MT is something special,..for the car guys and "good drivers",..you can set yourself apart from the rest by knowing how to drive a stick properly,..it`s cool,almost fashionable
how many times does one drive his DD at the performance level where a stick makes fun?
not all that often compared to the time on sits in traffic or rolls down the highway in a massive stream of cars
PDK,DCT etc are good compromises here,..offering both manual and auto mode
plus it`s faster and being faster equates to fun as well
a bit digitalized,less raw etc but it does the job,e.g changing gears(fast)
a much much greater concern for me is the future of car weights and engine tech
a 2 tons M3 with a triple turbo 4 cylinder would be like...hell on earth
I've been driving MT cars since I got my drivers license and I'm sick and tired of it. Next one is going to be an AT for sure - until I can afford that 7.2 GT3 I have wet dreams about.
Jun 26, 2012 | 11:58 AM
#33
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as long as Porsche keeps producing manual i'll be fine. imo, manual is fun but has to be in the right car. the mass of the M5 & M6 is just not the right combination with manual transmission. manual tranny has to be mated with proper sports car like 911 etc.
Jun 26, 2012 | 12:55 PM
#34
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yeap, i'm driving an auto daily for the first time in years...and everyday I hate it.
It's been 2 months and I still go to engage the clutch every time i get in.
It's been 2 months and I still go to engage the clutch every time i get in.
Jun 26, 2012 | 02:25 PM
#35
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Also a good point a manual tranny belongs if anything in a proper car.
Jun 26, 2012 | 03:02 PM
#37
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Jun 26, 2012 | 03:07 PM
#39
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That's the thing... With a stick shift, every drive can be fun. You're actually interacting with the car, shifting the gears yourself, heel-toe downshifting. All of that makes a boring drive more fun and it's something that's lost with any sort of automated transmission.