TS Official: 2012 F10 BMW M5 Discussion and Spy Photos/Videos Thread
Apr 20, 2010 | 09:23 PM
#12
Teamspeed's Mr. Spock
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,947
From: Los Angeles
I think things are getting out of hand here. Too fat. Too many gizzmotechythingies on our beloved German cars.
Give me a solid platform, manual transmission, keep the weight around 3800bls, 300+ hp, some sweet seats, climate control,xenon's, decent stereo and a sunroof. And nice wheels 19". A nice, capabable sport sedan for around $50ish.
Keep all the electrical and sound -quiet material to a normal level. Not over the top so I can't hear anything or feel the road anymore.
Give me a solid platform, manual transmission, keep the weight around 3800bls, 300+ hp, some sweet seats, climate control,xenon's, decent stereo and a sunroof. And nice wheels 19". A nice, capabable sport sedan for around $50ish.
Keep all the electrical and sound -quiet material to a normal level. Not over the top so I can't hear anything or feel the road anymore.
Apr 20, 2010 | 10:30 PM
#13
Teamspeed Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 60
IMO the whole idea of the car being heavier is very unlikely.
BMW wants to decrease fuel consumption, and make the car faster without matching others in the 600hp war. Also, BMW recently acquired a carbon fiber manufacturing company and I do not see why they wouldn't do at the very least a c/f roof like the m3/m6. At the maximum I think they will construct other parts of the car that are not commonly damaged (ex. rear bumper/trunk) with c/f to further reduce weight. Not as likely but again I think atleast the roof will.
What I'm saying is if the universal evil to performance, fuel consumption, and handling - AND knowing that BMW acquired a carbon fiber manufacturer, how could the car possibly be heavier than the E60 M5?
BMW wants to decrease fuel consumption, and make the car faster without matching others in the 600hp war. Also, BMW recently acquired a carbon fiber manufacturing company and I do not see why they wouldn't do at the very least a c/f roof like the m3/m6. At the maximum I think they will construct other parts of the car that are not commonly damaged (ex. rear bumper/trunk) with c/f to further reduce weight. Not as likely but again I think atleast the roof will.
What I'm saying is if the universal evil to performance, fuel consumption, and handling - AND knowing that BMW acquired a carbon fiber manufacturer, how could the car possibly be heavier than the E60 M5?
Apr 20, 2010 | 10:34 PM
#14
Teamspeed Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 60
I'm on my iPad and can't get to the normal version of the forums, only the mobile version (coding error). The mobile version doesn't have an edit post button so my two corrections to my last post are:
*Universal evil is weight
*Bumper and trunk not cf because it is commonly damaged and expensive to replace if made with cf.
*Universal evil is weight
*Bumper and trunk not cf because it is commonly damaged and expensive to replace if made with cf.
May 4, 2010 | 02:08 PM
#17
Teamspeed Pro
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,188
From: Oregon
I think STOPPIE is right, that thing looks big. Using the passengers as a gauge helps. The E60 M5 is already pushing it as far as size and weight goes. At some point, the cars dimensions are so big, it doesn't matter what technology it has holding it all together. You've lost the point.
They just really got it right with the E39 M5. Enough room for four adults, but compact enough for a tight road.
They just really got it right with the E39 M5. Enough room for four adults, but compact enough for a tight road.
