"Porsche 458 Killer"
#21
06-01-2011, 11:30 AM
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Where the Grass is Greener
Posts: 3,214
I like your dream Porsche. A lot!
Yes, i was thinking of your car when i wrote that. And thinking about all the comments i heard back when i had my Cayman S....poeple would always say, "why doesnt Porsche drop a big motor in this thing - tweak it some and watch the world sit back and say WOW" --- glad you are doing it.
There he is!!! Glad you bit. I like your ideas and think that is EXACTLY what they need to do.
Now lets see what TPC has in store for us shall we?
Yes, i was thinking of your car when i wrote that. And thinking about all the comments i heard back when i had my Cayman S....poeple would always say, "why doesnt Porsche drop a big motor in this thing - tweak it some and watch the world sit back and say WOW" --- glad you are doing it.
Okay, I'll bite.
NO- to the Cayman. It is not, nor never will be - on the same level of a 458 platform. Never. Nor should Porsche use the 'CGT' tub. -that's just dumb.
No, Porsche needs to come out with a MID-engined V8, cabin forward design of their own. The materials, fit and finish, sounds and looks- need to be UNMISTAKEABLE Porsche; but not try to 'redo' what they've done before. IT needs to be original, sound amazing at idle, start up and full throttle.
It needs to have a base price and with options that compete with the 458.
and it needs to have the SOUL of the Carrera GT. What I mean by that is; the CGT showed that Porsche is capable of building something completely mind blowingly awesome, exotic and unique. Unlike anything else they've ever done. Something that is cherished. - not taking anything away from the lovely 911- she will always be the 'staple' granddaddy of all Porsche's. But This next car needs to be really something.
AND NOT F&^%ing share ANYTHING with any other platform. FFS Porsche- do NOT do anything with any existing platform.
When Porsche achieves that- You'll have Ferrari guys SERIOUSLY considering Porsche again.
- I told David " you're really a Ferrari guy now" - and he agreed. Yes he loved his Turbos and GT2- but you could see his emotional response to the 458 was firing all his neurons. -that look when a 7 year old get the ULTIMATE toy. And can't wait to wake up and drive it.
Are you listening Porsche? I know you can achieve this. You're PORSCHE. Of COURSE you can! And you SHOULD!!
NO- to the Cayman. It is not, nor never will be - on the same level of a 458 platform. Never. Nor should Porsche use the 'CGT' tub. -that's just dumb.
No, Porsche needs to come out with a MID-engined V8, cabin forward design of their own. The materials, fit and finish, sounds and looks- need to be UNMISTAKEABLE Porsche; but not try to 'redo' what they've done before. IT needs to be original, sound amazing at idle, start up and full throttle.
It needs to have a base price and with options that compete with the 458.
and it needs to have the SOUL of the Carrera GT. What I mean by that is; the CGT showed that Porsche is capable of building something completely mind blowingly awesome, exotic and unique. Unlike anything else they've ever done. Something that is cherished. - not taking anything away from the lovely 911- she will always be the 'staple' granddaddy of all Porsche's. But This next car needs to be really something.
AND NOT F&^%ing share ANYTHING with any other platform. FFS Porsche- do NOT do anything with any existing platform.
When Porsche achieves that- You'll have Ferrari guys SERIOUSLY considering Porsche again.
- I told David " you're really a Ferrari guy now" - and he agreed. Yes he loved his Turbos and GT2- but you could see his emotional response to the 458 was firing all his neurons. -that look when a 7 year old get the ULTIMATE toy. And can't wait to wake up and drive it.
Are you listening Porsche? I know you can achieve this. You're PORSCHE. Of COURSE you can! And you SHOULD!!
Now lets see what TPC has in store for us shall we?
#23
06-01-2011, 03:12 PM
Chris good ideas. But Porsche please NO V8. We don't need another mid engined V8 supercar, we alreay have the 458 and the MP4-12C. Make the 961 unique and develop a FLAT 8 cylinder engine.
+1
+1
#24
06-01-2011, 03:51 PM
Why try and 1-up the 911? We already have a flat-6. Maybe a smaller V-10? Or a bi-turbo V8?
#27
06-01-2011, 09:20 PM
Plus, I'm partial to Porsche's 70's flat 8 and flat 12 cars.
#29
06-02-2011, 12:35 AM
NO- to the Cayman. It is not, nor never will be - on the same level of a 458 platform. Never.
For those who may not remember...
The Porsche Cayman platform has only once been raced on the big world stage by the best. In 2007, two private Porsche race houses each entered one Cayman into the 24hr Nurburgring. These were beautiful, full race cars with 3.8L Porsche engines, making over 500HP. Without any long term racing development and zero help form Porsche Motorsport, the ALZEN and Mspeed Caymans qualified 5th & 6th, with the Alzen finishing 4th overall!! This was the very first, and also the last chance for the Cayman to race on the big world stage.
Immediately after the race, Porsche announced that they would permanently withdraw any and all company race support to any race team that continued to race the Cayman platform. If Porsche had not pulled the rug out from under the Cayman race car, this same Cayman chassis design would probably be THE preeminent racing chassis for all of Porsche today and for the last few years.
![](http://www.planet-9.com/attachments/cayman-boxster-pictures-video/1772d1177534652-mspeed-jurgen-alzen-caymans-ring-unten_alzen.jpg"]http://www.planet-9.com/attachments/cayman-boxster-pictures-video/1772d1177534652-mspeed-jurgen-alzen-caymans-ring-unten_alzen.jpg)
YouTube - ‪Nordschleife MSpeed Porsche Cayman Onboard Pierre Kaffer (renn.tv)‬‏
