Is this OEM?
Aug 11, 2009 | 05:09 PM
#12
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Connor,
I never was a fan of the SMG in the E46 M3, mostly because of how clunky, awkward and slow it felt at lower speeds/softer driving. But, as stuka points out, the clutch feel of the E46 M3 isn't all that idea (to me), and noticeably lighter than the proper, heavy feel in the E39 M5.
If the SMG system in the non-M3 E46's isn't as clunky at lower speeds, it may be worth considering. Still, the only paddle shift system that has really impressed me in a BMW is the DCT in the E9X M3.
I never was a fan of the SMG in the E46 M3, mostly because of how clunky, awkward and slow it felt at lower speeds/softer driving. But, as stuka points out, the clutch feel of the E46 M3 isn't all that idea (to me), and noticeably lighter than the proper, heavy feel in the E39 M5.
If the SMG system in the non-M3 E46's isn't as clunky at lower speeds, it may be worth considering. Still, the only paddle shift system that has really impressed me in a BMW is the DCT in the E9X M3.
Aug 11, 2009 | 05:10 PM
#13
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I personally love the SMG, and as you might have noticed, all my cars are manual.
It's just that most new manual cars have such wussy clutches that is way too soft for my taste, E46 included, that I would rather have the SMG if the choice was there.
The only modern car I have ever own with acceptable clutch feel is the 996 GT2 and the E36 M3.
Everything else is way too soft and numb.
It's just that most new manual cars have such wussy clutches that is way too soft for my taste, E46 included, that I would rather have the SMG if the choice was there.
The only modern car I have ever own with acceptable clutch feel is the 996 GT2 and the E36 M3.
Everything else is way too soft and numb.
Aug 11, 2009 | 06:15 PM
#14
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Hell no, it's soft like all new stupid ass clutches.
But, between a manual with crappy clutch and a slushie, manual wins.
But, between a manual with crappy clutch and a slushie, manual wins.
Aug 11, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Connor,
I never was a fan of the SMG in the E46 M3, mostly because of how clunky, awkward and slow it felt at lower speeds/softer driving. But, as stuka points out, the clutch feel of the E46 M3 isn't all that idea (to me), and noticeably lighter than the proper, heavy feel in the E39 M5.
If the SMG system in the non-M3 E46's isn't as clunky at lower speeds, it may be worth considering. Still, the only paddle shift system that has really impressed me in a BMW is the DCT in the E9X M3.
I never was a fan of the SMG in the E46 M3, mostly because of how clunky, awkward and slow it felt at lower speeds/softer driving. But, as stuka points out, the clutch feel of the E46 M3 isn't all that idea (to me), and noticeably lighter than the proper, heavy feel in the E39 M5.
If the SMG system in the non-M3 E46's isn't as clunky at lower speeds, it may be worth considering. Still, the only paddle shift system that has really impressed me in a BMW is the DCT in the E9X M3.
Aug 12, 2009 | 04:50 AM
#16
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From: DC
But why would want a heavy clutch in a DD especially in a high traffic area like LA?
Aug 12, 2009 | 11:40 AM
#18
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From: Los Angeles
Just leave a little room, and for the most part, the car will idle in first and second.
Most of the 35K miles that I put on the GT2 is in LA traffic, no biggie.
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