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Aug 25, 2011 | 11:27 AM
#22
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As far as being a kit car, I don't think I've ever seen a kit car at the North American International Auto Show, which is where I first saw it.
Either way, it's more than clear that you guys don't like it, and that's totally fine. May I kindly ask that we be respectful one another's opinions and carry on?
Chris
Either way, it's more than clear that you guys don't like it, and that's totally fine. May I kindly ask that we be respectful one another's opinions and carry on?
Chris
Aug 27, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Comments on threads like this make me really sad to be a part of this community. You so called "enthusiasts" never miss a chance to solidify your reputations of being so closed minded, the opposite of a true car enthusiast. To go onto a thread about a car you don't know jack shit about and call it crap is stupid. Give the car a chance, do your research. You just hate for no reason.
This car is NOT a kit car. It is supposed to be a very refined sports car.
Because a running prototype is not perfect is no excuse to bash it. I know you have all seen the pictures of the Pagani C9 concept and it too was terrible quality. Not well put together. But the final product is amazing. These guys can do that too. I am very sure this is just a prototype. Wait for the final product, in a better color, a review and/or sit in it/drive it yourself.
Like I said, give the car a chance. Wait for the final product so you can have a real idea of what it is. A real car enthusiast would.
This car is NOT a kit car. It is supposed to be a very refined sports car.
Because a running prototype is not perfect is no excuse to bash it. I know you have all seen the pictures of the Pagani C9 concept and it too was terrible quality. Not well put together. But the final product is amazing. These guys can do that too. I am very sure this is just a prototype. Wait for the final product, in a better color, a review and/or sit in it/drive it yourself.
Like I said, give the car a chance. Wait for the final product so you can have a real idea of what it is. A real car enthusiast would.
Aug 28, 2011 | 09:25 PM
#25
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Comments on threads like this make me really sad to be a part of this community. You so called "enthusiasts" never miss a chance to solidify your reputations of being so closed minded, the opposite of a true car enthusiast. To go onto a thread about a car you don't know jack shit about and call it crap is stupid. Give the car a chance, do your research. You just hate for no reason.
This car is NOT a kit car. It is supposed to be a very refined sports car.
Because a running prototype is not perfect is no excuse to bash it. I know you have all seen the pictures of the Pagani C9 concept and it too was terrible quality. Not well put together. But the final product is amazing. These guys can do that too. I am very sure this is just a prototype. Wait for the final product, in a better color, a review and/or sit in it/drive it yourself.
Like I said, give the car a chance. Wait for the final product so you can have a real idea of what it is. A real car enthusiast would.
This car is NOT a kit car. It is supposed to be a very refined sports car.
Because a running prototype is not perfect is no excuse to bash it. I know you have all seen the pictures of the Pagani C9 concept and it too was terrible quality. Not well put together. But the final product is amazing. These guys can do that too. I am very sure this is just a prototype. Wait for the final product, in a better color, a review and/or sit in it/drive it yourself.
Like I said, give the car a chance. Wait for the final product so you can have a real idea of what it is. A real car enthusiast would.
Chris
Aug 29, 2011 | 06:07 PM
#26
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I get what you are saying and didn't take it as bashing at all. BUT....this is a car enthusiasts forum. Any car that has any relevance or is noteworthy, we are going to know about it. Otherwise it is just another kit car/home built machine. And the build quality and other details just aren't going to be up to par to most people on here. And you can't compare food and music to car manufacturers. Anyone can make an amazing meal or be an incredible singer, but very very few of them are ever heard of publicly. It is much less likely for someone to build a top quality car. And if they did it would get a lot of attention. I appreciate you posting a car you found interesting, just don't expect kit cars to be received well here. That's all.
2011 Detroit Show Underdogs
How about The New York Times?
Mach7 Motorsports Falcon - Detroit Auto Show - NYTimes.com
Fast Lane Daily?
Falcon Mach 7 Supercar, Production Aston Martin One-77, 2011 F1 Valencia Testing - YouTube
Google search?
These were almost nine months ago during the North American International Auto Show. I usually stay away from responding to internet trash when it's simply a case of ignorance (not stupidity, I'm referring to lack of knowledge, I do not want to insinuate you're stupid). There can be so many ignorant people that want to fill in their own blanks and with a keyboard, have the power to do so. Do you know FOR SURE this car will be a terrible car? Have you ever seen a test mule car look complete and amazing? Have you been behind the wheel and balked at the terrible performance? You've seen the numbers?
Yes, I'm on here defending my product. I usually don't do this, but I've just come off of many days watching Ferrari's and Lambo's get ignored while people are all attentive to what the Falcon will be. I've felt the rare power to weight ratio missing from many GT cars. I've experience SO MUCH of the oposite of what has been stated here, I cant help but write this. I KNOW what this car is, and you don't. So I will make this clear: This forum is filled with uneducated comments that are spoken as gospel, and I'm chiming in on this rare occasion to call it out. After this, I'll go silent again when it comes to these sort of posts.
After the production cars hit the street, the reviews are in, the numbers are clear and you've been behind the wheel, make your comments and I will respect the opinion of the person posting. Until then, these comments have as much merit as the person typing them.
Sincerely,
Jeff
Last edited by Jeff Lemke; Aug 29, 2011 at 06:16 PM.
Aug 29, 2011 | 06:08 PM
#27
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Comments on threads like this make me really sad to be a part of this community. You so called "enthusiasts" never miss a chance to solidify your reputations of being so closed minded, the opposite of a true car enthusiast. To go onto a thread about a car you don't know jack shit about and call it crap is stupid. Give the car a chance, do your research. You just hate for no reason.
This car is NOT a kit car. It is supposed to be a very refined sports car.
Because a running prototype is not perfect is no excuse to bash it. I know you have all seen the pictures of the Pagani C9 concept and it too was terrible quality. Not well put together. But the final product is amazing. These guys can do that too. I am very sure this is just a prototype. Wait for the final product, in a better color, a review and/or sit in it/drive it yourself.
Like I said, give the car a chance. Wait for the final product so you can have a real idea of what it is. A real car enthusiast would.
This car is NOT a kit car. It is supposed to be a very refined sports car.
Because a running prototype is not perfect is no excuse to bash it. I know you have all seen the pictures of the Pagani C9 concept and it too was terrible quality. Not well put together. But the final product is amazing. These guys can do that too. I am very sure this is just a prototype. Wait for the final product, in a better color, a review and/or sit in it/drive it yourself.
Like I said, give the car a chance. Wait for the final product so you can have a real idea of what it is. A real car enthusiast would.
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Aug 29, 2011 | 08:02 PM
#29
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Hey Jeff,
Thank you for chiming in. I too, am very frustrated by the ignorance with people. To say that any car we haven't heard of is a kit car is just ridiculous. As a musician, I hear that a lot myself. If a band is a one hit wonder, all of their other music must be trash.
In the Detroit area, our local news channel has a segment called, "I saw it on the internet, so it has to be true."
I think they need another segment called, "I've never heard of it, so it has to suck."
Keep putting your passion into this car, Jeff! Even the biggest founders (Ferrari, Lamborghini) went through ridicule like this. Don't worry about those nasty comments, you can't do anything about that. Best of luck to you and I wish you great success!
Chris
Thank you for chiming in. I too, am very frustrated by the ignorance with people. To say that any car we haven't heard of is a kit car is just ridiculous. As a musician, I hear that a lot myself. If a band is a one hit wonder, all of their other music must be trash.
In the Detroit area, our local news channel has a segment called, "I saw it on the internet, so it has to be true."
I think they need another segment called, "I've never heard of it, so it has to suck."
Keep putting your passion into this car, Jeff! Even the biggest founders (Ferrari, Lamborghini) went through ridicule like this. Don't worry about those nasty comments, you can't do anything about that. Best of luck to you and I wish you great success!
Chris
Aug 29, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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How come hand built cars like Zondas, atoms, ccx, agera, get so much love and this thing gets hate? Cuz it's fvcking make my eyes bleed. That's why. Don't post pics of a fugly ass car and not expect people on a car site to rip it apart.
