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Do you lease, finance or pay cash for your cars?

Old Jan 24, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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Can't opt for the two so no vote.

Lease the daily drive, finance the weekend (sports)car and wisely invest the money you have because it's not wasted on the cars..
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cstroked
I understand your point but given that I was speaking from a legal perspective about a technicality, in the state of Ohio, I am fairly certain I'm correct. A jury in NY has no bearing on OH motor vehicle law. That is a state issue not a federal one. Further, that's a blanket statement for a variety of reasons not the least of which would be the questions regarding the language of the leasing contract.


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You're exactly right, it's not from the State but the financial institution. But as long as they lease in 50 states, it affects us all.


MARK- you are NOT the typical buyer. Clients such as you account for a small % of the actual buyer segment.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Depends on what kind of vehicle...if it is a car I want to keep....cash and finance...if it is a car that is not quite timeless...lease.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by h20skier
Yes if you take the note the whole way and they were only offering that on the $150-175k plus Turbo's(Cars that cost Porsche $60k to produce). As I stated it's really just pre-paid interest. Total gimic that works in Porsche's favor in this instance. Most of the guys that take the loan pay full boat and sell the car in 2 years. Win Win Win for Porsche. Porsche keeps their $15k to start out with and makes 1.9% off the poor guy that is paying on a depreciating asset. Not that almost every car I own hasn't lost value but I knew this before I purchased them and understood full well the HIT I was going to take.

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I hate to pull a yox on you. But margin is now prepaid interest? I don't know whether to or
Originally Posted by h20skier
The price of the car. 6k off most likely meant you still had some room. We bought our Tahoe 2 years ago with $12k plus off in kickbacks or incentives.

That's all I meant. The price of the car includes the interest. Our Tahoe at the time had a was MSRP $53k while a Denali was $55k at the time. I wrote a $40k check plus tax. So If I would have financed it at $47k even showing a $6k deduct on the truck GM still got $7k more than I paid cash.
You're making my head hurt.

The margin or rebate = prepaid interest is killing me.

What if I finance my Tahoe through JPMorgan which allows me all the cash rebates so I get 12k off and a super low rate which is below inflation? One step further:
Originally Posted by A3aan
Can't opt for the two so no vote.

Lease the daily drive, finance the weekend (sports)car and wisely invest the money you have because it's not wasted on the cars..
Then I really come out ahead.


The funniest part in all of this is that everyone things paying cash gets you the lowest sale price.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by h20skier
I will never argue with someone that leases there normal driver. As long as the lease payment would never put them in stress EVER.
It's only stressful to one of us, actually j/k I understand what you're saying. My S-mom and Dad argue all the time about leasing vs. purchase. She is adamant about the 'but you don't own it!!!'



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MARK- you are NOT the typical buyer. Clients such as you account for a small % of the actual buyer segment.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cstroked
I hate to pull a yox on you. But margin is now prepaid interest? I don't know whether to or

You're making my head hurt.

The margin or rebate = prepaid interest is killing me.

What if I finance my Tahoe through JPMorgan which allows me all the cash rebates so I get 12k off and a super low rate which is below inflation? One step further:
Our conversation was simply about GMAC or Ford 0% financing and yes it's no different than prepaying interest. Margin or not. Leases do it as well. Find the wall and bang

I do not believe anyone that arranges finance anywhere else is prepaying anything. If you think you will get 0% interest on a vehicle with the same purchase price as someone that has paid cash you have another thing coming. So yes it's prepaid interest (in a sense) for Ford or GMAC. You can call it margin. You can call it lack of cash incentives. I'll call it paying to use their money. Interest, fees, etc.

I should have just said you will pay for the financing somehow. Whether I call it interest or you call it margin. When we discuss 0% thru the manufacturer they get their money for loaning you the money.
 
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Originally Posted by cstroked
I hate to pull a yox on you. But margin is now prepaid interest? I don't know whether to or

You're making my head hurt.

The margin or rebate = prepaid interest is killing me.

What if I finance my Tahoe through JPMorgan which allows me all the cash rebates so I get 12k off and a super low rate which is below inflation? One step further:


Then I really come out ahead.


The funniest part in all of this is that everyone things paying cash gets you the lowest sale price.
I think he means to say that it's implicit, somewhat similar to the intuition behind a non-interest bearing loan/note.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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I usually buy used CPO'd car's 1-2 years old and lately have been taking advantage of 2.9% financing with BMW, and Audi on their CPO's. Some of the cheaper cars I've had that were less than 20k, I'd pay Cash for, but I figure with low rates on a used car with a 6yr/100k mile warranty that have already taken a big hit, its makes the most sense. I just like seeing Money in my Bank Account
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Holy sh*t some of you completely skull you-know-what buying a car! LOL

This is a CAR, not a retirement plan.
 
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by h20skier
Our conversation was simply about GMAC or Ford 0% financing and yes it's no different than prepaying interest.
If looking at it that way helps you sleep at night... Whatever it takes
Originally Posted by STOPPIE
Holy sh*t some of you completely skull you-know-what buying a car! LOL

This is a CAR, not a retirement plan.
 

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