Geneva 2011: Porsche Cayman R in Silver
Mar 2, 2011 | 02:51 AM
#12
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that's exactly what i don't like about the Cayman R and love the Boxster Spyder.
Mar 2, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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FWIW: For those of us that are buying the Cayman-R as a track oriented vehicle, the car as it comes now makes sense.
Could the car have had a larger bump in HP rather than 10hp?, sure that would have been nice, but then again whenever you bump HP it is a good idea to also bump the braking capacity/capability of the car. (no one in their right minds would buy PCCB's on a track oriented car, unless you have money to burn and want to make the parts department of your local dealership very happy)
Could the car have used a different look?, sure it could have. But for someone who is planning to mod the car anyways like myself, having the R look the way that it does is actually an advantage.
I can buy a functional front splitter that fits the stock 987.2 bumper, but I won't be able to find a splitter that will fit the Spyder bumper. Doubt that there would be enough volume to have any manufacturer make one without having it cost an arm and a leg.
Same goes with the rear wing, I can remove the rear wing and install a functional one that is already available, if Porsche had decided to manufacture a model specific rear hatch like the Spyder I would have been SOL and would have had to purchase a stock Cayman rear hatch.
There are a lot of subtle changes that have been made on the Cayman-R that probably most of the folks who don't track cars don't care about, but for the intended target audience of the car they makes sense.
Having a PSM that can be disabled 100% without the need to install a yaw sensor cutout switch is also a bonus in my book (if what is being reported is accurate). Having the PSM thresholds be higher when PSM is on compared to the stock Cayman-S might prove to be useful as well for those ocassions that I take the car to the track when it is wet and decide to keep PSM on.
Pretty sure that there are many other subtle changes that most people won't notice or care about that have been done on the R, but for the intended purposes of the car I am satisfied.
BTW: Having fender flares like the 997.2GT3RS does not make any sense given that I can easily install tires that are 245mm wide or 255mm wide on the stock 987.2 front fenders of the car without needing more clearance. What is the point of having a CF front hood if the stock one is aluminum and pretty light
, want a CF look? get a CF wrap on the hood and be done with it, it would be a whole of a lot cheaper in the end, LOL.
I did not buy a car like the Cayman-R to look good driving on the streets, I bought it to be able to enjoy the car at the track where it will be fun.
IMHO: The intended target audience of the R is clearly different from those of the Spyder, just because both vehicles have a similar philosophy regarding weight reduction does not imply that they have the same end user in mind. Some folks will get it some others won't. That is ok, as long as you are happy with your car (whatever car that is) that is all that matters in the end
Could the car have had a larger bump in HP rather than 10hp?, sure that would have been nice, but then again whenever you bump HP it is a good idea to also bump the braking capacity/capability of the car. (no one in their right minds would buy PCCB's on a track oriented car, unless you have money to burn and want to make the parts department of your local dealership very happy)
Could the car have used a different look?, sure it could have. But for someone who is planning to mod the car anyways like myself, having the R look the way that it does is actually an advantage.
I can buy a functional front splitter that fits the stock 987.2 bumper, but I won't be able to find a splitter that will fit the Spyder bumper. Doubt that there would be enough volume to have any manufacturer make one without having it cost an arm and a leg.
Same goes with the rear wing, I can remove the rear wing and install a functional one that is already available, if Porsche had decided to manufacture a model specific rear hatch like the Spyder I would have been SOL and would have had to purchase a stock Cayman rear hatch.
There are a lot of subtle changes that have been made on the Cayman-R that probably most of the folks who don't track cars don't care about, but for the intended target audience of the car they makes sense.
Having a PSM that can be disabled 100% without the need to install a yaw sensor cutout switch is also a bonus in my book (if what is being reported is accurate). Having the PSM thresholds be higher when PSM is on compared to the stock Cayman-S might prove to be useful as well for those ocassions that I take the car to the track when it is wet and decide to keep PSM on.
Pretty sure that there are many other subtle changes that most people won't notice or care about that have been done on the R, but for the intended purposes of the car I am satisfied.
BTW: Having fender flares like the 997.2GT3RS does not make any sense given that I can easily install tires that are 245mm wide or 255mm wide on the stock 987.2 front fenders of the car without needing more clearance. What is the point of having a CF front hood if the stock one is aluminum and pretty light
, want a CF look? get a CF wrap on the hood and be done with it, it would be a whole of a lot cheaper in the end, LOL.I did not buy a car like the Cayman-R to look good driving on the streets, I bought it to be able to enjoy the car at the track where it will be fun.
IMHO: The intended target audience of the R is clearly different from those of the Spyder, just because both vehicles have a similar philosophy regarding weight reduction does not imply that they have the same end user in mind. Some folks will get it some others won't. That is ok, as long as you are happy with your car (whatever car that is) that is all that matters in the end
Last edited by 2slow2speed; Mar 2, 2011 at 03:32 PM. Reason: ordered car has finished being built, have not purchased the car yet, getting ahead of myfself, lol..
Mar 2, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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I must say I agree with all others, the Boster Spyder is way more refined and improved from the Boxster S than the Cayman R from the Cayman S. The Cayman R does nothing for me to be honest.
However, according to swedish sources which attended the launch of the new Cayman R, one of the Porsche CEO's accidentally revealed in an interview that there will be yet another special version called the Cayman RS. Hopefully this will live up to its name!
However, according to swedish sources which attended the launch of the new Cayman R, one of the Porsche CEO's accidentally revealed in an interview that there will be yet another special version called the Cayman RS. Hopefully this will live up to its name!
Mar 5, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Looks great Nico... Did you take any pictures of the Meteor Grey Boxster Spyder there too?
Last edited by navanoD; Mar 5, 2011 at 05:08 PM.