The Future of Passenger Planes
#11
01-19-2011, 07:24 PM
Fuel consumption. When I fly private we beat commercial flights to the same destination sometimes by 20-30 minutes per hour. Typically due to throttle down flying I presume.
#12
01-19-2011, 07:27 PM
I'm not sure what you are traveling on while flying, but you are likely beating commercial flights due to differences in routing, and flying direct to destination instead of major airports. You also aren't dealing with TSA, security, baggage claim, so door to door is almost always faster.
#14
01-19-2011, 10:10 PM
OK, let me rephrase my question.
It would seem like if we have the same progress as we have made on passenger cars, that we would have relatively affordable supersonic passenger airliners, as well as private planes that can fly supersonic.
That airliner died a few years back, and no replacement is coming to my knowledge.
Private supersonic jets?
I just don't understand why there has been such little progress in civilian aviation, and why it still cost so much, and it still takes about a day to get from LA to BKK.
I mean, in 1995 you could pay 100K and have a safe and reliable car capable of traveling at 185mph on the autobahn.
16 years later in 2011, it still takes about a day to fly anywhere in SE Asia, in planes that are such old design (747's).
I just don't get it.
It would seem like if we have the same progress as we have made on passenger cars, that we would have relatively affordable supersonic passenger airliners, as well as private planes that can fly supersonic.
That airliner died a few years back, and no replacement is coming to my knowledge.
Private supersonic jets?
I just don't understand why there has been such little progress in civilian aviation, and why it still cost so much, and it still takes about a day to get from LA to BKK.
I mean, in 1995 you could pay 100K and have a safe and reliable car capable of traveling at 185mph on the autobahn.
16 years later in 2011, it still takes about a day to fly anywhere in SE Asia, in planes that are such old design (747's).
I just don't get it.
#15
01-19-2011, 10:44 PM
OK, let me rephrase my question.
It would seem like if we have the same progress as we have made on passenger cars, that we would have relatively affordable supersonic passenger airliners, as well as private planes that can fly supersonic.
That airliner died a few years back, and no replacement is coming to my knowledge.
Private supersonic jets?
I just don't understand why there has been such little progress in civilian aviation, and why it still cost so much, and it still takes about a day to get from LA to BKK.
I mean, in 1995 you could pay 100K and have a safe and reliable car capable of traveling at 185mph on the autobahn.
16 years later in 2011, it still takes about a day to fly anywhere in SE Asia, in planes that are such old design (747's).
I just don't get it.
It would seem like if we have the same progress as we have made on passenger cars, that we would have relatively affordable supersonic passenger airliners, as well as private planes that can fly supersonic.
That airliner died a few years back, and no replacement is coming to my knowledge.
Private supersonic jets?
I just don't understand why there has been such little progress in civilian aviation, and why it still cost so much, and it still takes about a day to get from LA to BKK.
I mean, in 1995 you could pay 100K and have a safe and reliable car capable of traveling at 185mph on the autobahn.
16 years later in 2011, it still takes about a day to fly anywhere in SE Asia, in planes that are such old design (747's).
I just don't get it.
The development costs involved in aviation versus the automobile industry are absurd because the standards for production, acceptance, tolerances, etc. are all much higher.
The alternator belt on my 1972 Piper Arrow costs $7 at the auto parts store, except I can't buy it there. I have to buy a PMA'd or STC'd belt from an authorized supplier, and that same belt is $78. And I mean same belt - down to the part number silk screened on it.
#16
01-20-2011, 01:52 AM
One word. Liability.
The development costs involved in aviation versus the automobile industry are absurd because the standards for production, acceptance, tolerances, etc. are all much higher.
The alternator belt on my 1972 Piper Arrow costs $7 at the auto parts store, except I can't buy it there. I have to buy a PMA'd or STC'd belt from an authorized supplier, and that same belt is $78. And I mean same belt - down to the part number silk screened on it.
The development costs involved in aviation versus the automobile industry are absurd because the standards for production, acceptance, tolerances, etc. are all much higher.
The alternator belt on my 1972 Piper Arrow costs $7 at the auto parts store, except I can't buy it there. I have to buy a PMA'd or STC'd belt from an authorized supplier, and that same belt is $78. And I mean same belt - down to the part number silk screened on it.
Last edited by stuka; 01-20-2011 at 02:57 AM.
