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D55L 06-01-2010 02:56 AM

There is a rumor floating around that Murcie successor could feature a CF monocell built by Carbo Tech company which is buiding monocells for McLaren new MP4-12C. This rumor was started by EVO magazine and now I am hearing it again.

Here is a link about this company:

https://teamspeed.com/forums/superca...rbon-tech.html

d3a 06-01-2010 07:12 AM

but Lambo is already linked in partnership with Boeing for cf...

shin 06-01-2010 07:44 AM

I was actually hoping for aluminium rather than CF..guess not.

D55L 06-01-2010 08:06 AM

Partnership in research with U of Washington and production of the real chassis are two different things. Again, I am not the author of that rumor, I can not rate its credibility, such rumor exists and I shared it.

The Murcie successor will feature CF chassis, that for sure. Again, there is lack of more detailed information, but CF chassis is for sure. There is not so long to wait for official details will start to appear, so we just have to wait and see.

Brett@LamborghiniMiami 06-01-2010 09:13 AM

Of course you guys have the news before anyone else!

Hernando 06-01-2010 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by ag02m5 (Post 620722)
And DCT means no 3 pedal so I'm sure there are a few who don't find that a bad thing.

I'm one of those. Real men use 3 pedals.


Originally Posted by LABrit (Post 620636)
No scissor doors? wtf.........

I would be seriously disappointed too.


Originally Posted by ag02m5 (Post 620723)
You want to get trapped upside down in a burning car with scissor doors? They look great but I would opt for something like the SLS that can be removed in rollover. I am guessing the new doors will be more safety concious.

Only valid argument for me to reconsider my love of scissor doors, but I still want them.


Originally Posted by Brett@LamborghiniMiami (Post 628543)
Of course you guys have the news before anyone else!

You know it. I always told you that the good info is found here.

d3a 06-01-2010 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by D55L (Post 628501)
Partnership in research with U of Washington and production of the real chassis are two different things. Again, I am not the author of that rumor, I can not rate its credibility, such rumor exists and I shared it.

The Murcie successor will feature CF chassis, that for sure. Again, there is lack of more detailed information, but CF chassis is for sure. There is not so long to wait for official details will start to appear, so we just have to wait and see.

yes it's true.so as you said,we have to wait

roytoy2003 06-01-2010 10:39 AM

I have now heard that the NEW car wll be a SC V-6 in order to meet tight DOT-EPA fuel mile restrictions..

Ludas 06-01-2010 11:07 AM

What is a SC V-6?

Le Pun 06-01-2010 11:22 AM

I already got mine, I will post pics soon.

shin 06-01-2010 11:29 AM

Pardon but what exactly have you got ? Pics of the real production car ?

Hernando 06-01-2010 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Ludas (Post 628628)
What is a SC V-6?

Super Charged V6

Hernando 06-01-2010 11:50 AM

Here is a Students concept of a Lamborghini. NOT the successor, but it gives a pretty good idea of how the doors will open. Again I am NOT insinuating that this is the next big lambo, just look at the doors.

YouTube - Lamborghini Cnossus student design concept by Viktor Filipchenko

D55L 06-01-2010 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by roytoy2003 (Post 628604)
I have now heard that the NEW car wll be a SC V-6 in order to meet tight DOT-EPA fuel mile restrictions..

Roy, are you serious? SC V6 Lamborghini flagship? Something does not work together here. May be it was said about Gallardo successor, that would be closer to being even acceptable.


Originally Posted by Le Pun (Post 628642)
I already got mine, I will post pics soon.

What have you got, can you clarify please?

But please do not say you got the car in US before it was even built together at L-factory? Now that would be really funnny :hilarious:


Originally Posted by Hernando (Post 628672)
just look at the doors.

That could be close, frameless doors moving just like I was told.

Alex12de 06-01-2010 12:16 PM

Cant wait for it!!!

roytoy2003 06-01-2010 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by D55L (Post 628686)
Roy, are you serious? SC V6 Lamborghini flagship? Something does not work together here. May be it was said about Gallardo successor, that would be closer to being even acceptable.



What have you got, can you clarify please?

But please do not say you got the car in US before it was even built together at L-factory? Now that would be really funnny :hilarious:



That could be close, frameless doors moving just like I was told.


Of course I am not serious..JUST really geting tired of all the rumors being posted and spread like school girl talk..lets give it a rest for a while and just see what happens..

D55L 06-01-2010 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by roytoy2003 (Post 628692)
Of course I am not serious..JUST really geting tired of all the rumors being posted and spread like school girl talk..lets give it a rest for a while and just see what happens..

I am used to trust you Roy, so you better do not joke in this manner :hilarious:

Totally agree with you though, that is what I told few posts above. A lot of wrong info rolling out in lack of any official news. So we have to wait and see for the first true facts.

dyvatvol15 06-01-2010 01:29 PM

Well, I was really surprised, when TeamSpirit teaser of new Lambo showed on many sites with information, that it is official teaser...
Let's wait and see, hope only a month...

Hernando 06-01-2010 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by roytoy2003 (Post 628692)
Of course I am not serious..JUST really geting tired of all the rumors being posted and spread like school girl talk..lets give it a rest for a while and just see what happens..

Oh but this is the only time and place and topic for which I can act like a giddy school girl.

DJ 06-01-2010 02:24 PM

News spreading, hope to see - hear more soon

canyouheminow83 06-01-2010 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by D55L (Post 628702)
I am used to trust you Roy, so you better do not joke in this manner :hilarious:

Totally agree with you though, that is what I told few posts above. A lot of wrong info rolling out in lack of any official news. So we have to wait and see for the first true facts.

I have to disagree with you guys. Yes, it is true nobody knows what the car looks like and how fast it is but its these rumors that keep alot of us, including myself interested and excited and waiting in anticipation for the release of the Jota. If everybody on this forum just closed their mouths and didn't say a word this forum would quite frankly become very boring and lose alot of its appeal. No disrespect intended to anybody but I just wanted to voice my opinion.

Shadowman 06-01-2010 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by canyouheminow83 (Post 629062)
I have to disagree with you guys. Yes, it is true nobody knows what the car looks like and how fast it is but its these rumors that keep alot of us, including myself interested and excited and waiting in anticipation for the release of the Jota. If everybody on this forum just closed their mouths and didn't say a word this forum would quite frankly become very boring and lose alot of its appeal. No disrespect intended to anybody but I just wanted to voice my opinion.


Dreaming is a good thing and then sharing them makes for good converaation; in the end some dreams will be realized and others will be put on hold for another day.

I agree

Shadowman

DJ 06-01-2010 09:04 PM

Man does D55l's info get around the net! Just saw it pop up on the Motor Trend website blog!

dmanero 06-01-2010 11:19 PM

Well I sure you all know this but Autoblog.com posted a teaser picture that was submitted to them. Unlike most Teasers where you can get an idea of the car, this teaser shows nothing but a glimpse of the hood and badge. Lamborghini is going to make us beg. lol

rafattorney 06-03-2010 06:34 PM

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Hello
Can anyone tell me what is the car behind...in the teaser?

dmanero 06-03-2010 07:11 PM

could be, nice find.

Fuel&Fire 06-03-2010 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by rafattorney (Post 631228)
hello
Can Anyone Tell Me What Is The Car Behind...in The Teaser?

Lp640

giallo sv 06-04-2010 02:42 AM

I understand that the excitement levels experienced by the millions of Lamborghini lovers whilst anticipating the release of the next flagship model go through the roof. However, may i say that as far as i'm concerned and from what i have been led to believe, those of us who are owners of the current Murcielago's and the previous V12 models, may in fact be the last owners of cars that are a part of history that has defined Lamborghini. We may be owners of cars that, in the future, enthusiasts will be wishing never were touched, that in fact they were perfect. I absolutely adore my 670 SV as i did my previous Diablos and LP 640 Roadster. These models improved with technology but the same DNA was present in all of them. The unique feel of a V12 Lamborghini was present in all of these cars. I"m quite sure that the new flagship car will be packed with cutting edge technology. Modern chassis design, materials and components, electronics and a huge horsepower and greener motor are sure to be incorporated in the new car. But, and i choose my words carefully here, will it FEEL like a Lamborghini or are we going to have a fast and unemotional, super efficient, luxurious tourer. I make this post because i cant help but feel that we are possibly moving into the Gallardo type of car (no offense intended to Gallardo owners). The last thing that i would want to see as a die hard Lamborghini owner is a new era where effiency replaces emotion. Where one would ask "Where is the Italian in Lamborghini?" Hopefully the answer will be "It's still full blooded Italian"

Shadowman 06-04-2010 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by giallo sv (Post 631592)
I understand that the excitement levels experienced by the millions of Lamborghini lovers whilst anticipating the release of the next flagship model go through the roof. However, may i say that as far as i'm concerned and from what i have been led to believe, those of us who are owners of the current Murcielago's and the previous V12 models, may in fact be the last owners of cars that are a part of history that has defined Lamborghini. We may be owners of cars that, in the future, enthusiasts will be wishing never were touched, that in fact they were perfect. I absolutely adore my 670 SV as i did my previous Diablos and LP 640 Roadster. These models improved with technology but the same DNA was present in all of them. The unique feel of a V12 Lamborghini was present in all of these cars. I"m quite sure that the new flagship car will be packed with cutting edge technology. Modern chassis design, materials and components, electronics and a huge horsepower and greener motor are sure to be incorporated in the new car. But, and i choose my words carefully here, will it FEEL like a Lamborghini or are we going to have a fast and unemotional, super efficient, luxurious tourer. I make this post because i cant help but feel that we are possibly moving into the Gallardo type of car (no offense intended to Gallardo owners). The last thing that i would want to see as a die hard Lamborghini owner is a new era where effiency replaces emotion. Where one would ask "Where is the Italian in Lamborghini?" Hopefully the answer will be "It's still full blooded Italian"

Well presented and in time this may be the post for many to read again as there is no doubt that the times they are a changing.

Thank you

Shadowman

hlmiii 06-04-2010 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by giallo sv (Post 631592)
I understand that the excitement levels experienced by the millions of Lamborghini lovers whilst anticipating the release of the next flagship model go through the roof. ... Hopefully the answer will be "It's still full blooded Italian"

:respekt:

shin 06-04-2010 08:42 AM

On the contrary, I'm one of the people who are anticipating this new era of modern and reliable Lamborghinis. No more sky high maintenance costs and road side problems..

roytoy2003 06-04-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by giallo sv (Post 631592)
I understand that the excitement levels experienced by the millions of Lamborghini lovers whilst anticipating the release of the next flagship model go through the roof. However, may i say that as far as i'm concerned and from what i have been led to believe, those of us who are owners of the current Murcielago's and the previous V12 models, may in fact be the last owners of cars that are a part of history that has defined Lamborghini. We may be owners of cars that, in the future, enthusiasts will be wishing never were touched, that in fact they were perfect. I absolutely adore my 670 SV as i did my previous Diablos and LP 640 Roadster. These models improved with technology but the same DNA was present in all of them. The unique feel of a V12 Lamborghini was present in all of these cars. I"m quite sure that the new flagship car will be packed with cutting edge technology. Modern chassis design, materials and components, electronics and a huge horsepower and greener motor are sure to be incorporated in the new car. But, and i choose my words carefully here, will it FEEL like a Lamborghini or are we going to have a fast and unemotional, super efficient, luxurious tourer. I make this post because i cant help but feel that we are possibly moving into the Gallardo type of car (no offense intended to Gallardo owners). The last thing that i would want to see as a die hard Lamborghini owner is a new era where effiency replaces emotion. Where one would ask "Where is the Italian in Lamborghini?" Hopefully the answer will be "It's still full blooded Italian"

Agee 110%..and after yesterday with 50 plus miles on my #12 Lp670-4SV on the track at Fontana..you could not pry this car out of my hands. I as well, no offense to G car owners...as there were tons out there..but it was like a imposter trying to catch the "Daddy" all day long around the track..still great cars and great performance..but there was little if any driver in-teraction required...as I think will be the next era of "Flagship" car..

Hitting 185 plus in 5th gear on the back stretch was a dream...and let me add..the 3 pedal car showed NO LOSS in performace over and E-Gear car..to be quite honest with you..IMO and several others..the only two cars that were ahead of the pack all day long..were 3 pedal cars...#12 mine and Mr V.B. who I had the pleasure with to pass others and stay up at the front in his 3 pedal car as well..I felt as if I was in an elite group...man that guy can drive..and it was a pure compliment to the car I was operating that it was one of a very small number of the 49 cars plus that was not over taken by Mr V.B....but scary as hell with him behind you for over a 3 mile course in several laps LOL LOL

I also enjoyed the "old School" laps I placed on my 1996 SV-R...that truly reminded my of WHY I drive a V-12 Lamborghini..

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

roytoy2003 06-04-2010 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by shin (Post 631684)
On the contrary, I'm one of the people who are anticipating this new era of modern and reliable Lamborghinis. No more sky high maintenance costs and road side problems..

Sorry you have had a Lemon car...my experiance has been trouble free for years on ALL my Lambos..but then again I place miles on them and exercise them regulary..which IMO is the most important thing you can do to these fine machines

giallo sv 06-04-2010 10:58 AM

Thanks Shadowman and Roy for your comments. It's reassuring to know that other lamborghini owners 'get' what i'm trying to explain with respect to the next flagship car. Of course i anticipate it impatiently as well. I just hope that the unique and unmistakeable qualities that have stirred so many enthusiasts blood is present in abundance in the new car. I vividly remember many journalists who had their first drives of the SV last year stating that it would be a huge task to top the SV with the future model. I'm with you Roy you could not get me to give up my SV for anything.

Redlinerobert 06-04-2010 12:20 PM

Reading this makes me miss my '05 6-speed Murcielago. I know exacty what you mean about the spirit of the car. In my opinion, no other car will ever touch what Lamborghini accomplished with the Murcielago/LP line. Perhaps the last of the true Lamborghinis.

allanlambo 06-04-2010 11:36 PM

Everytime a new V12 lambo is released everyone considers the last one to be the last REAL lambo. People screamed bloody murder when the Diablo came out after the Countach ( Lambo was owned By Chrysler) and complained that the Diablo was not a REAL Lambo. Same thing happened with the Murciealgo.

As for the comment of lambo being unreliable, in my experience they have always been THE MOST RELIABLE.

j09333 06-05-2010 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by allanlambo (Post 632355)
Everytime a new V12 lambo is released everyone considers the last one to be the last REAL lambo. People screamed bloody murder when the Diablo came out after the Countach ( Lambo was owned By Chrysler) and complained that the Diablo was not a REAL Lambo. Same thing happened with the Murciealgo.

As for the comment of lambo being unreliable, in my experience they have always been THE MOST RELIABLE.

totally agree! lambo is reliable. ferrari is NOT.

giallo sv 06-05-2010 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by j09333 (Post 632384)
totally agree! lambo is reliable. ferrari is NOT.

+1... before i became a dedicated Lamborghini owner i owned quite a few Ferrari's and they were totally unreliable. I still remember a 355 Spider of mine going to the service centre when nearly new 13 weeks in a row!

giallo sv 06-05-2010 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by allanlambo (Post 632355)
Everytime a new V12 lambo is released everyone considers the last one to be the last REAL lambo. People screamed bloody murder when the Diablo came out after the Countach ( Lambo was owned By Chrysler) and complained that the Diablo was not a REAL Lambo. Same thing happened with the Murciealgo.

As for the comment of lambo being unreliable, in my experience they have always been THE MOST RELIABLE.

My apprehension regarding the up comming replacement for the Murcielago is based on the fact that the existing V12 motor is being dropped for what i presume will be an Audi developed V12. The evolution of Miura to Countach to Diablo to Murcielago was IMO a seamless transition and an evolution of an evocative motor vehicle. Now we appear to be starting with a clean sheet. I am only suggesting that i hope we are not getting into an era where parent company infuences dominate the charachter of the new car. If the new car is a 'better' LP 560 then i think it would be a tradgedy for Lamborghini. As i said in my earlier post on the subject i am sure it will be cutting edge etc but i hope that the italian flair that distinguishes Lamborghini will not be lost in the mix.

Shadowman 06-05-2010 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by giallo sv (Post 632447)
My apprehension regarding the up comming replacement for the Murcielago is based on the fact that the existing V12 motor is being dropped for what i presume will be an Audi developed V12. The evolution of Miura to Countach to Diablo to Murcielago was IMO a seamless transition and an evolution of an evocative motor vehicle. Now we appear to be starting with a clean sheet. I am only suggesting that i hope we are not getting into an era where parent company infuences dominate the charachter of the new car. If the new car is a 'better' LP 560 then i think it would be a tradgedy for Lamborghini. As i said in my earlier post on the subject i am sure it will be cutting edge etc but i hope that the italian flair that distinguishes Lamborghini will not be lost in the mix.


As with you my LP670-4 SV makes me smile and she leaves no doubt to all of her blood line.

I am excited for Lamborghini because it remains a fact that Lamborghini must progress or die and through the process of progressing new audiences are brought into the family.

The Gallardo is a great example; they are IMO Lamborghinis and are also a great example of how through progress a new audience was brought into the family; from a business standpoint all would agree that Lamborghini needed a cash flow vehicle to survive and IMO to keep Audi standing behind them and by presenting the Gallardo; a gal that is able to be reliably driven daily with only modest service costs it forced the other marquees to sit up and IMO change their “it’s an exotic that is rarely driven and owned by only the well healed” attitude as such reliability which IMO was way down on their list of issues commanding their attention is now at the forefront which in end is a win for all of us.

So will tomorrow bring another "BULL"; a visceral in your face gal who's drum beats so extreme that to a person they are noticed or rather a badass supercar adorned with the bull roundel; I suspect more of the later and yet through the years that which sets Lamborghini a part from the crowd has remained as such I expect albeit different that this component will remain.

All the best

Shadowman


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