Configure your own Porsche 991!
#62
Have you guys that have built cars on the configurator looked at the prices of the car once you're done?! With the base price increase, option price increases and the addition of new options to select, the total price is getting out of control.
The Carrera S that I configured had the "must have" options from the past as well as some of the new good ones (burmeister) and it came to $124K. This is for a C2S people... not a GT3.
Once you get to $125K, there are many other cars out there to possibly choose. Used F430 for not much more...
Not more than a few years ago, you could get a great-specced brand new 996 for way under $100K. That's around a $35K price increase for the well-optioned brand new cars in under 7 years.
Just a thought...
The Carrera S that I configured had the "must have" options from the past as well as some of the new good ones (burmeister) and it came to $124K. This is for a C2S people... not a GT3.
Once you get to $125K, there are many other cars out there to possibly choose. Used F430 for not much more...
Not more than a few years ago, you could get a great-specced brand new 996 for way under $100K. That's around a $35K price increase for the well-optioned brand new cars in under 7 years.
Just a thought...
But then again, you could never do in an F430 what you could do in a 911.
Also, inflation is a big factor. A 1965 911 cost around $6,500 in 1964, which is today equal to about $50k. And a heavily optioned 996 from 1998 worth about $80,000 would be worth about $105,000 today. So there is still a bit of a gap but you have to remember all of the extra base equipment you get and the fact that the 991 is an all around better car.
#64
I'm absolutely in agreement that the pricing is becoming a little too high to get what I want. From my perspective, if I can't get a car close to how I want, then I'm paying A LOT of money for something I'm not quite happy with. Not a good position to be in.
As for the configuration, I've actually priced out some 991 C2S build that are around $110k. BUT, I did take the perspective that some options are just pointless for my use of the car (PDCC, PCCB) and other items I just don't want (Aerokit, PDK). so my builds included:
* Metallic Paint
* Sport Design wheels
* Sport Chrono
* Sport Design Steering Wheel
* Bose stereo
* Sport Seats Plus
* Two-Tone Leather
* Center and Trim Strips painted to exterior
* Heated & Vented seats
Take note:
* NO PDK
* NO PDCC
* NO PCCB
* NO Sunroof
* NO Burmester
* NO Lighting package
* NO Adaptive Sports Seats
* NO PSE (would wait for SharkWerks to come up with something)
There's a difference between building your dream 911 and building the 911 that you will be happy paying for.
As for the configuration, I've actually priced out some 991 C2S build that are around $110k. BUT, I did take the perspective that some options are just pointless for my use of the car (PDCC, PCCB) and other items I just don't want (Aerokit, PDK). so my builds included:
* Metallic Paint
* Sport Design wheels
* Sport Chrono
* Sport Design Steering Wheel
* Bose stereo
* Sport Seats Plus
* Two-Tone Leather
* Center and Trim Strips painted to exterior
* Heated & Vented seats
Take note:
* NO PDK
* NO PDCC
* NO PCCB
* NO Sunroof
* NO Burmester
* NO Lighting package
* NO Adaptive Sports Seats
* NO PSE (would wait for SharkWerks to come up with something)
There's a difference between building your dream 911 and building the 911 that you will be happy paying for.
#65
For the most part I agree.
But then again, you could never do in an F430 what you could do in a 911.
Also, inflation is a big factor. A 1965 911 cost around $6,500 in 1964, which is today equal to about $50k. And a heavily optioned 996 from 1998 worth about $80,000 would be worth about $105,000 today. So there is still a bit of a gap but you have to remember all of the extra base equipment you get and the fact that the 991 is an all around better car.
But then again, you could never do in an F430 what you could do in a 911.
Also, inflation is a big factor. A 1965 911 cost around $6,500 in 1964, which is today equal to about $50k. And a heavily optioned 996 from 1998 worth about $80,000 would be worth about $105,000 today. So there is still a bit of a gap but you have to remember all of the extra base equipment you get and the fact that the 991 is an all around better car.
#66
Interesting...price vs perception. That's opening a can of worms here. With time and each generation that comes out, the price is of course going to increase. No escaping that. We either perceive it to be a large jump or not. Porsche knows this and probably adjusted their prices according to the cost increase related to inflation. No escaping that.
Now, the F430/Scuderia vs 993/996/997/991...well, I've got both also and the Scuderia has been reliable in the year that I've had it except maybe for a few niggling issues. My 997TT has been exceptionally reliable since the day I picked it up. mkultra, maybe you were just unlucky with all your Porsches.
Now, the F430/Scuderia vs 993/996/997/991...well, I've got both also and the Scuderia has been reliable in the year that I've had it except maybe for a few niggling issues. My 997TT has been exceptionally reliable since the day I picked it up. mkultra, maybe you were just unlucky with all your Porsches.
#67
I've already gone to configure in Germany Website, but I didn't find the option of "Designation of JUST Carrera or Carrera S", Designation of "911 Carrera and 911 Carrera S" are the standard features,the options are just deleting the designation & JUST "911". why the German 911 manual guide has some pictures of new 911 which shows the "Carrera & Carrera S" designation?




