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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sechsgang
Well that doesnt sound like going the way of the GTR or anything...
or an early 90's honda prelude
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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Sounds costly & heavy. Not to mention it could turn out to be a reliability nightmare and a pain to keep all 4 wheels aligned properly.
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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The last time I saw 4wheel steering was that on a Honda 20yrs. ago. Now, I see the technology would finds its way into a Porsche! Which is very good thing!
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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are we talking about genuine 4 wheel steere or something like this torque vector stuff in the bmw x6 and so on?
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxtheone
are we talking about genuine 4 wheel steere or something like this torque vector stuff in the bmw x6 and so on?
They already came out with PTV, porsches version of torque vectoring. This is really a 4ws system.
All that I am upset about is that it wont be here for another 18months. How do they think we can wait that long. A year ago guys were wondering if they should get a 997.2TT or wait for the new one. That is a long ass wait.
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEEDANDTECH
didn't honda have a 4 wheel steering on a prelude in the 90s?
and it didn't make the cut.
Sure did, I had it on my 95 300zx TT back in the day.
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Per wiki:

Production cars with active four wheel steering
BMW 850CSi (optional)
BMW 7-Series (2009 onwards, part of sport package) [3]
BMW 5-series (2011 onwards, Integral Active Steering option) (wheels move in opposite direction for maneuverability at low speed, in same direction for stability at high speed)
Chevrolet Silverado (2002–2005) (high and low speed)
Efini MS-9 (high and low speed)
GMC Sierra (2002–2005) (high and low speed)
GMC Sierra Denali (2002–2004) (high and low speed)
Honda Prelude (high and low speed, mechanical from 1987 to 1991, computerized from 1992–2001)
Honda Accord (1991) (high and low speed, mechanical)
Honda Ascot Innova (1992) (high and low speed, computerized from 1992–1996)
Infiniti FX50 AWD (option on Sports package) (2008–Present) (high and low speed, fully electronic)
Infiniti G35 Sedan (option on Sport models) (2007–Present) (high speed only?)
Infiniti G35 Coupe (option on Sport models) (2006–Present) (high speed only)[4]
Infiniti J30t (touring package) (1993–1994)
Infiniti M35 (option on Sport models) (2006–Present) (high speed only?)
Infiniti M45 (option on Sport models) (2006–Present) (high speed only?)
Infiniti Q45t (1989–1994) (high speed only?)
Lexus GS (2013 onwards, if equipped with optional Lexus Dynamic Handling)
Mazda 929 (1992–1995)(computerised, high and low speed)(all models)
Mazda 626 (1988) (high and low speed)
Mazda MX-6 (1989–1997) (high and low speed)
Mazda RX-7 (optional, computerized, high and low speed)
Mazda Eunos 800 (1996–2003) (Optional, computerized, high and low speed)
Mercedes-Benz Vito (London Taxi variant)
Mitsubishi Galant/Sigma (high speed only)
Mitsubishi GTO (also sold as the Mitsubishi 3000GT and the Dodge Stealth) (Mechanical) (high speed only)
Nissan Cefiro (A31) (high speed only)
Nissan 180SX (HICAS option)
Nissan 240SX/Silvia (option on SE models) (high speed only)
Nissan 300ZX (all Twin-Turbo Z32 models) (high speed only)
Nissan Laurel (later versions) (high speed only)
Nissan Fuga/Infiniti M (high speed only)
Nissan Silvia (option on all S13 models) (high speed only)
Nissan Skyline GTS, GTS-R, GTS-X (1986) (high speed only)
Nissan Skyline GT-R (high and low speed)
Renault Laguna (only in GT version of 3rd generation which was launched October 2007, GT launched on April 2008)
Subaru Alcyone SVX JDM (1991–1996) (Japanese version: "L-CDX" only) (high speed only)
Toyota Aristo (1997) (high and low speed?)
Toyota Camry / Vista JDM 1988–1999 (Optional) [5]
Toyota Carina ED / Toyota Corona EXiV (world's first dual-mode switchable 2WS to 4WS)
Toyota Celica (option on 5th and 6th generation, 1990–1993 ST183 and 1994–1997 ST203) (Dual-mode, high and low speed)
Toyota Soarer (UZZ32)
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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What's the point in 4WS? Maybe I'm missing the boat, but how does a tighter turning radius mean a faster time on the ring?
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GTCole
What's the point in 4WS? Maybe I'm missing the boat, but how does a tighter turning radius mean a faster time on the ring?
Agreed. Even if you did lose a half a second or so, you would just gain it back with the weight.
 
Old Sep 17, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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Everyone had these in my High School!

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