9ff TR-1000 pass 391.7 KM/H @ Papenburg
#31
Im certain that any EVO build is far less than the approx 150K this build costs.. For me hitting 243mph is senseless especially when it takes 5 miles to do so. Im interested in useable performance. I think companies like EVO can provide bolt on kits which will match this 9FF's useable performance.
As you say monopoly money and pretty pointless for most markets but good to see it being done !
#32
I have the maximum EVOMS bolt on kit and it will not match this acceleration performance (200-300 km/hr ~ 10s). Actually if the 9ff driver would shift a little faster the time could be below 10s. To match this performance with EVOMS would require an engine build and GT-30 turbos, imo. However, even with a build it could be purchased for alot less than 150K.
There are other tuners that are bolting on more power than the 9ff car here. Iam thinking mainly of Switzer but there are others.
There are other tuners that are bolting on more power than the 9ff car here. Iam thinking mainly of Switzer but there are others.
Last edited by porschephile; 12-04-2009 at 06:50 AM.
#34
You are not kidding !For 150k I could almost be covinced to sell the Porsche record holder,which would absolutely embarass this car in a straight line.
#35
Exactly. It's unfortunate that sometimes prices are charged based more so on name rather than result but we all know it happens. We prefer to concentrate on the results.
#36
Holding the motor flat out in top under full load for much longer as the final few mph are achieved is not the same as a through the gears 1 mile drag run and moreover these expensive engines are built to be able to do this time and again (whether the 9ff one actually can be this reliable is moot and definately open to question given their variable reputation) but the expensive build is as I said before because of the expensive shiny parts needed. Your cheap intercoolers will be heat soaking and your mega boost will be elevating temperatures (on your 1 mile drag engine) as 6th gear is held open for 1 minute.....
It is entirely feesible that the 231mph drag engine could run faster than this 243mph but until it has done so (and manages to keep running without having melted anything) it is just conjecture
#37
Euro members shit can't ****in stop!!
Remember years ago
1- Euro members claims that over 600hp better internals is a must...U.S tuners prove the opposite.
2- Euro members claims that thier tuners build the quickest from 0-300km/h...U.S tuners prove the opposite
3- Now they r talking about fastest porsche...Who need ****in 380-390kmh!!
build a $$$$ porsche to take it to germany highway then KABOOM!!LOL!!!!
Remember years ago
1- Euro members claims that over 600hp better internals is a must...U.S tuners prove the opposite.
2- Euro members claims that thier tuners build the quickest from 0-300km/h...U.S tuners prove the opposite
3- Now they r talking about fastest porsche...Who need ****in 380-390kmh!!
build a $$$$ porsche to take it to germany highway then KABOOM!!LOL!!!!
#38
1 mile drag is totally different compared with a top speed challenge like this one achieved by 9ff.
Holding the motor flat out in top under full load for much longer as the final few mph are achieved is not the same as a through the gears 1 mile drag run and moreover these expensive engines are built to be able to do this time and again (whether the 9ff one actually can be this reliable is moot and definately open to question given their variable reputation) but the expensive build is as I said before because of the expensive shiny parts needed. Your cheap intercoolers will be heat soaking and your mega boost will be elevating temperatures (on your 1 mile drag engine) as 6th gear is held open for 1 minute.....
It is entirely feesible that the 231mph drag engine could run faster than this 243mph but until it has done so (and manages to keep running without having melted anything) it is just conjecture
Holding the motor flat out in top under full load for much longer as the final few mph are achieved is not the same as a through the gears 1 mile drag run and moreover these expensive engines are built to be able to do this time and again (whether the 9ff one actually can be this reliable is moot and definately open to question given their variable reputation) but the expensive build is as I said before because of the expensive shiny parts needed. Your cheap intercoolers will be heat soaking and your mega boost will be elevating temperatures (on your 1 mile drag engine) as 6th gear is held open for 1 minute.....
It is entirely feesible that the 231mph drag engine could run faster than this 243mph but until it has done so (and manages to keep running without having melted anything) it is just conjecture
#39
1 mile drag is totally different compared with a top speed challenge like this one achieved by 9ff.
Holding the motor flat out in top under full load for much longer as the final few mph are achieved is not the same as a through the gears 1 mile drag run and moreover these expensive engines are built to be able to do this time and again (whether the 9ff one actually can be this reliable is moot and definately open to question given their variable reputation) but the expensive build is as I said before because of the expensive shiny parts needed. Your cheap intercoolers will be heat soaking and your mega boost will be elevating temperatures (on your 1 mile drag engine) as 6th gear is held open for 1 minute.....
It is entirely feesible that the 231mph drag engine could run faster than this 243mph but until it has done so (and manages to keep running without having melted anything) it is just conjecture
Holding the motor flat out in top under full load for much longer as the final few mph are achieved is not the same as a through the gears 1 mile drag run and moreover these expensive engines are built to be able to do this time and again (whether the 9ff one actually can be this reliable is moot and definately open to question given their variable reputation) but the expensive build is as I said before because of the expensive shiny parts needed. Your cheap intercoolers will be heat soaking and your mega boost will be elevating temperatures (on your 1 mile drag engine) as 6th gear is held open for 1 minute.....
It is entirely feesible that the 231mph drag engine could run faster than this 243mph but until it has done so (and manages to keep running without having melted anything) it is just conjecture
You make reference to our "cheap" intercoolers. I am not sure why you would make a comment like that. I never attacked 9ff in a disrespectful way and I certainly didn't disrespect you in any way. Our intercoolers speak for themselves, in volumes, so I don't feel the need to dignify that comment by going into details as to why our I/C's make the power numbers that they do.
#40
There is no doubt that there are some differences between a "1mile drag race" and a terminal velocity run. That being said I don't believe that the differences are as great as you feel they are. Yes, the engine is subject to a longer period of time under full throttle when it comes to a top speed test but it is generally just one run, maybe two, to get that final number. We had two vehicles make between 7-9 passes at the TX Mile, all north of 200 mph, and they never so much as sneezed in the wrong way. Say what you would like about a top speed run but you cannot dispute the demand that back to back to back runs in the standing mile puts on these engines. To say that 9ff's engines are engineered to a higher standard, that justifies the higher price, just because they are running a top speed test rather than "just a 1 mile drag" is a bit misguided..
9 seconds at full load does not stress a system like 60 seconds - have you ever seen the turbos and exhaust on an engine dyno at full load ? Imagine the heat and stresses involved in holding that there for 1 minute ? - if you guys can't see that then well I guess I'll remove a few brain cells and join Freak singing to the chorus
You make reference to our "cheap" intercoolers. I am not sure why you would make a comment like that. I never attacked 9ff in a disrespectful way and I certainly didn't disrespect you in any way. Our intercoolers speak for themselves, in volumes, so I don't feel the need to dignify that comment by going into details as to why our I/C's make the power numbers that they do.
I am of course playing devils advocate, it would be a boring place if all we did was high five ! I would say without doubt that EVO can build a motor to beat this top speed for much less money, I really hope they do since they generously document the builds and results which is pure Porsche porn for us guys - look forward to you spanking that 9ff top speed