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Old 08-12-2009 | 10:06 PM
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2010 TT Order Guide released

I just reviewed the entire package for coupe and cab.

There is NO sport steering wheel listed, except for PDK. So w/stick you can get stock wheel or multifunction. Hope the stock is thicker, but no mention of it. Thicker Alcantara wheel is available. Maybe it's a mistake since it's early. Otherwise most options are about what's expected.

Pricing is insane, as expected. Get a few nice leather goodies, some other options (chrono, etc), and it quickly grows near Ferrari land.

Someone with some skillz please explain torque vectoring, why it's needed (it's explained in the order guide) but a gut feeling from someone who knows this well and can amplify.

The MOST interesting wording is the beginning description IN the order guide: "Dry sump lubrication system with external oil tank"

Notice the brake/shifter options were described in gibberish too...another debate will ensue.

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Old 08-12-2009 | 10:26 PM
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Awesome Buddy, thanks for this !
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 12:02 AM
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wow, fantastic specs...500hp, 480ft lbs, 7 speed pdk, 3.8L dry sump TT, active engine mounts....

Porsche has upped the 911 ante again
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 12:29 AM
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PTV (Porsche Torque Vectoring) is quite simply an eLSD (electronic Limited Slip Differential). Now to make things clear, this car has both PTV and a mechanical LSD.
Let me explain what PTV is.
If you have an open differential (i.e. no LSD, when the wheel with least friction starts spinning, all of the engine torque goes to that spinning wheel, resulting in no movement of the vehicle). What this does, is it brakes the wheel that is spinning thus reducing the slip on that particular wheel and transferring the torque to the other wheel.

Porsche has added PTV on top of the mechanical LSD which essentially does the same thing in reducing slip on the slipping wheel but it does so with help of clutches in the differential itself and not through brakes.

Hope this isn't too technical.
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 01:22 AM
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Thanks for the great info. So maybe the dry sump is not dead after all.

Regarding the DFI... Audi has had issues with carbon build-up inside the intake on their RS4/R8 DFI V8 engines. Does anyone have thoughts on whether this may be an issue with the new 3.8L Porsche engine?
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 01:28 AM
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Thanks for the great info. So maybe the dry sump is not dead after all.

Regarding the DFI... Audi has had issues with carbon build-up inside the intake on their RS4/R8 DFI V8 engines. Does anyone have thoughts on whether this may be an issue with the new 3.8L Porsche engine?
It could be since there is no fuel passing in the intake manifold to wash the oil deposits out. It all depends on the positive crankcase ventilation system it has. Only time will tell i guess.
An oil catch can could be a solution on Audi/VW engines though.
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 01:38 AM
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I just read the comments on PTV and it sounds like:
PTV + PCCB + track use = EXPENSIVE

The 997.1TT can already chew through rear PCCB's pretty quickly with heavy track use. Adding additional braking via PTV, while likely a leap forward in handling, sounds like a recipe for even faster brake wear. Time will tell... I guess it is always about trade-offs though.
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sparkhill
Thanks for the great info. So maybe the dry sump is not dead after all.

Regarding the DFI... Audi has had issues with carbon build-up inside the intake on their RS4/R8 DFI V8 engines. Does anyone have thoughts on whether this may be an issue with the new 3.8L Porsche engine?
I heard this rumor when I had my RS4, but I encountered no issues whatsoever. I've had my 3.8 DFI Porsche since February, again with no issues. What is the source of this info?
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
I heard this rumor when I had my RS4, but I encountered no issues whatsoever. I've had my 3.8 DFI Porsche since February, again with no issues. What is the source of this info?
I also had a RS4 and I was pretty active on AudiWorld and QuattroWorld. The intake carbon build-up is pretty well documented there but does not seem universal. I know of one car that was lemoned because of the issue. I don't know if it is an universal DFI issue, but it is certainly an Audi 4.2L V8 DFI issue.

Here are jsut two of the many threads on the topic:
quattroworld.com Forums: VW patent acknowledging the intake valve deposit issue
quattroworld.com Forums: MRC Tuning vs. pippyrips' B7 RS4
 
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Old 08-13-2009 | 02:55 AM
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Chris the problem starts showing at higher mileages although some have reported CB as early as 7500miles. Some symptoms include reduced performance and misfire.
 



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