Dodge Viper takes latest Nürburgring record with a 7:12 run
 

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Dodge Viper takes latest Nürburgring Record
The Viper gives the LF-A a snake bite throwing down a 7:12 run on the ring

Well that sure was a short lived record for the Lexus LF-A Nürburgring Edition. After the LF-A posted a very impressive 7:14 run a few weeks ago, the boys from Detroit send out a Viper ACR to throw down a good old fashion American whoopin' posting a 7:12 run on the ring this morning.

We have no official word yet on who was piloting the viper or which one of the two cars posted here achieved the amazing 7:12 time, but we are quite certain this is valid and official confirmation will come any minute now. Until then feel free to throw out a USA chant if you so desire.

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Before you chant repost, repost, after USA, USA....we know this was posted a little ways ago but we just wanted to get our own blurb down with our images posted up here. ;)

the red one is excellent looking...first time I see an ACR sans stripes...works well

That's very impressive!

REPOST REPOST USA USA

Go AMERIKUH!!! (my finest redneck voice)

:D

:eek: unexpected.

Keep in mind this record is still with a fraction of the practice and prep time that went into Porsche, Nissan, and Lexus's runs. Translation: With the same amount of effort as the competition expect seconds more to be shaved off.

:eek: DAMN! That's a very impressive time!

How do you figure?

They have been running the Vipers at Nurburgring for quite a while now. If I can recall correctly, in 2008 the Viper ACR ran a 7:22 lap there.

Awesome! Give me the key to the red one ;-)

Any still shots that show what tires they used?

I'm waiting for a video :)

FYI, the red one pictured is an ACR-X. The black one is an ACR.

The ACR uses Pilot Sport Cups.

I have no doubt the LF-A, Viper ACR and other cars all ran those times. I want to know if they are making these times in a truly stock car with the tires that come with it on the dealer showroom floor.

Fair question.

When the Viper was run for the 7:22 it was run by a driver who was unfamiliar with the car, and they only ran a few laps for the record. There was no extensive practice sessions.

Same goes with the new record. Those are the only 2 times dodge has sent an ACR to the ring. Nissan, Porsche, and Lexus on the other hand have been back and forth at the ring for years with their flagships. Nissan even commented about their car being designed at the ring. They easily have 100s of laps on it with drivers familiar with the car and very familiar with the track. That is a HUGE advantage. It's no secret.

And I've heard a lot of people cry about the Viper's tires or it's aero kit. My answer to them is so what? The ZR1 cost at least $20k more than the Viper. They both went after the same goal - having the fastest car both in a straight line and around a track for a good price. Each company went about it a different way. The ZR1 has carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber panels for weight savings, and many other goodies that the Viper does not. If you truly want to make it "fair", let the ZR1 add an aero kit. But take the cost of that aero kit, add that with the extra $20k for the ZR1, and then allow the Viper to add goodies worth that amount to the ACR so you have two truly equal cars. IMHO the Viper will still beat the shit out of the ZR1. Especially if you are running multiple laps and the vette begins to heat soak thanks to its blower.

And I am tired of listening to people wine about no extensive practice sessions. NO ONE runs a low 7 minute lap on the ring without knowing that track. PERIOD

Very very impressive, I've never thouigh this good'ol' viper could ever do this. In my mind it was a raw monster that go berserk on the driver when it sees a curve!

They're really not that difficult to drive, just intimidating. The huge amount of lateral grip requires quite a lot of confidence on the part of the driver to believe it'll stick the way it does, but, it does.

I wonder who piloted this impressive time.

Looks like the red is a ACR-X which is a race car.

SRT group provided the driver.

Cool thanks

I love this kind of competition.

On many other car related websites today the internet is on fire talking about how 'Ring times should be "banned" and other such hogwash.

Seriously, congrats to the Dodge boys. This can only make future supercars faster & better.

Always loved Vipers!

The red one had slicks and our spy photog seemed to think it was the black & silver car who ran the 7:12.

Interesting... The LFA did have a passenger in the car tho meaning extra weight.

There is quite a bit of wrong here, so let me help out.

The Viper that set the record time was the Black/Silver ACR driven by German driver Dominik Farnbacher. The backup Green ACR was driven by Tom Coronel who piloted the 2008 ACR to the previous record of 7:22.1. Both Vipers beat the ZR1 time handily, but the suspension was set up better on the B/S ACR and it set the record. The driver had extensive experience at the Ring. The red Viper is a non street legal ACR-X which runs on slicks and is a full blown race car. It ran a 7:03.

The Viper ACR's used were donated by Tomball Dodge in Texas. They were both brand new 2010 models running on the factory stock Pilot Sport Cups, the same tires the ZR1 ran on. These are the stock tire on all Gen 4 ACR's. The 2010 Vipers have improved aero and most importantly an improved fifth gear ratio to make it usuable unlike the '08 and '09 ACR's

Dodge rented the track for 1/2 day on Monday but at that time did not break the LF-A time. The track had some dampness from the morning but was not wet. The drivers and support personel knew the record could be broken on dry conditions and they returned on Wednesday to do just that.

Both of these Viper ACR's were stock off the dealers showroom. This was a joint effort by Tomball, Dodge, and Vulkan Racing Mintgen Motorsport.

Here is a link to the Monday action, the official record breaking video has not bee released yet.

Dodge Viper- neuer Rundenrekord auf der Nordschleife? (12.9.2011) - YouTube

Where is the video? Is it now official? Great run.

Only during the hotlaps and 7:22 run. Only had the driver on board during the 7:14:6 run. Watch the video and you'll see some cables or wires flopping around on the passenger side.

Well if that's the case, then that is one hell of a lap time! That driver is extremely talented considering he can control that beast.

That's all just talk, I know the driver who set the record.

It's just a marketing talk, all bullshit. It was the same driver as back in 2008 and he had driven this car for years and years until he set this record time...

Typical American to claim the record and shout it out loud so the whole world knows it was an american car. Blahblah it was so easy, etcetc

^seriously, do you intentionally try to piss people off with your comments. If I remember correctly, you were the one who thought the Somali pirates who killed a bunch of innocent people had some fascinating stories to tell. You are a class act pal.

Also, I call BS that you know the driver that set the record.

Wow typical eurotrash know nothing comment.

Like I posted in the other thread, while Tom Coronel was driving one of the cars, he did not set the record, Dominik Farnbacher did.

Man those babies look MEAN!!! I need to get a couple Nurburgring stickers. They look neat on the endplates.

Damn!!! sick numbers indeed 7:12 ?!?! bows down for that viper :p

Chill a little bit man.

@ViperACR: thanks for the info

Angry much? lol

Regardless of any politics that may or may not be behind this, that is an extremely fast lap time. That is not debatable. The car and driver deserve some recognition.

Oh, and... FYI, Dominik Farnbacher (the guy who set this lap time) is German. So maybe the German man is to blame for claiming it was so easy... :hilarious:

Your other points are pretty good, but this is a terrible comparison. You forget that the point of the ZR1 is to be extremely fast on a track for cheap(like the ACR) but be comfortable and be a good daily driver. The ACR is not a great commuter or street car. The ZR1 is a great street and track car while the ACR is a better track car. Both have their purpose and both accomplish it amazingly.