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I was wondering same thing about Ferrari not using CF. but here is one trick: Ferrari is in Formula 1 & they know all issues of CF in extreme conditions. More important is, that Ferrari might be considering other composite. For example brand new composite Tegris, that seems way more superior than CF in all aspects of using & reciclyng http://images.gizmag.com/hero/tegrisparts-9.jpg If you have time, you can inform yourself here more: Tegris: Thermoplastic composite takes on carbon fiber |
Originally Posted by Ludas
(Post 1252014)
^^ Ridiculous. While Ferrari is still hanging around in the last decade desperately trying to improve aluminium, Lambo keeps investing in CF r&d thus getting a bigger and bigger advantage. Aluminium will never be as light and rigid as CF... |
sick looking! I'm in love, is perfect between classic and modern look! |
cmon guys...give em a break you have to take in consideration that those are production cars and not one off pieces,so the production cost and followingly the price has to be kept as low as possible while offering the optimum for that price all CF and lightweight aerospace grade material would skyrocket prices On topic : Great shots of the F12 in the flesh! Def a head turner! |
Originally Posted by diskreet
(Post 1252027)
This new Ferrari does not compete with mid-engined Lambos with carbon frames. Its a completely different car. For a super GT aluminum still works. Of course I'd prefer carbon but alum keeps costs down and let's them focus on more important things than 10/10ths performance- ride quality, NVH reduction, etc. The 599 might be silly fast but its not a race car, its a GT. This is the same; bonkers performance but still works on normal streets. McLaren might be the only ones who have bridged the gap so far. I believe Lambo's investment in CF is gonna result in a bigger pay off further down the line than Ferrari's investments in aluminium. |
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Originally Posted by Ludas
(Post 1252269)
You are completely missing the point. Whether the F12 competes with the Aventador is of no relevance. The fact remains, CF is a superior material to aluminium for sport- or supercars since it's lighter and more rigid. Even if it's just a GT and not a racecar, it would still benefit from these two factors. And if using aluminium is keeping costs down I wonder where exactely those lower costs have gone. I believe Lambo's investment in CF is gonna result in a bigger pay off further down the line than Ferrari's investments in aluminium. |
Originally Posted by Ludas
(Post 1252269)
You are completely missing the point. Whether the F12 competes with the Aventador is of no relevance. The fact remains, CF is a superior material to aluminium for sport- or supercars since it's lighter and more rigid. Even if it's just a GT and not a racecar, it would still benefit from these two factors. And if using aluminium is keeping costs down I wonder where exactely those lower costs have gone. I believe Lambo's investment in CF is gonna result in a bigger pay off further down the line than Ferrari's investments in aluminium. |
Originally Posted by DJ
(Post 1251955)
Cleaned these up a tad for the orig. snapper... https://teamspeed.com/forums/attachm...71d_b-copy.jpg |
All that having been said. I would drive that car like an expensive whore into the sunset! WhoooopeeeeeEEeeeeeeeEEEEEEeeeeeeee!!!!!! seXXaayy!! |
It's nice, but I'm not blown away by it. |
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