For those that don't know 5.56 is a much better ammo than .223 If you have a rifle that can shoot both .223 and 5.56 than you should opt for the 5.56. This information is for those who are new to Assualt Rifles that can shoot both ammo and don't realize they can use 5.56 (in my experience I have seen a lot of AR guys shoot specifically only .223). Keep in mind 5.56 and .223 are not identical and you should consult your manual before you try to shoot 5.56. The reason 5.56 is better is because they typically have higher velocity and chamber pressure than .223. 5.56 has a maximum service pressure of 62,366psi while .223 ha 55,000psi. 5.56 is a approved US Military/NATO ammunition, so I'm sure that tells us its good enough for war while .223 is not. The good part is 5.56 is priced pretty much the same as .223. Once you shoot it you will notice and hear the difference between the ammo. Also for those who have ARs (ie. Rock River Arms, Armalite) that can shoot both .223 and 5.56 and use .223 you are losing some accuracy by using .223. This has been proven. |
Originally Posted by EVS Motors Inc.
(Post 297716)
If you have a rifle that can shoot both .223 and 5.56 than you should opt for the 5.56. This information is for those who are new to Assualt Rifles that can shoot both ammo and don't realize they can use 5.56 (in my experience I have seen a lot of AR guys shoot specifically only .223). Keep in mind 5.56 and .223 are not identical and you should consult your manual before you try to shoot 5.56. The reason 5.56 is better is because they typically have higher velocity and chamber pressure than .223. 5.56 has a maximum service pressure of 62,366psi while .223 ha 55,000psi. 5.56 is a approved US Military/NATO ammunition, so I'm sure that tells us its good enough for war while .223 is not. The good part is 5.56 is priced pretty much the same as .223. Once you shoot it you will notice and hear the difference between the ammo. Also for those who have ARs (ie. Rock River Arms, Armalite) that can shoot both .223 and 5.56 and use .223 you are losing some accuracy by using .223. This has been proven. A lot depends on what your goals and objectives are. Some of what you are saying here isn't entirely accurate, or perhaps applicable, especially since most shooters aren't setting out to the range to fire on live targets. Almost all match grade and high grain ammo for ARs is .223. At longer ranges, this ammo generally is far more consistent than, for example, M193. I would like to see some proof that accuracy is lost with match grade .223 when compared with military issue 5.56. With that said, 5.56 is more fun to shoot. About 75% of what comes out of my rifles is that caliber. The extra punch does have that added cool factor. If I were stuck in a SHTF situation, I would grab a box of M193 before anything else, but since we haven't reached a state of true anarchy yet, I don't know if I would advocate the need for 5.56 to put bigger holes in paper down range. Shoot with what you are comfortable with. |
For all new AR owners, make sure your rifle is chambered for 5.56 . Rifles chambered in .223 are not designed to handle the increased pressure of 5.56 NATO. |
Here is some information from Winchester. Paul Nowak5/4/2001.223 Rem VS 5.56mm There are a lot of questions about these two cartridges. Many people think they are identical - merely different designations for commercial and military. The truth is that, although somewhat similar, they are not the same and you should know the differences before buying either cartridge.
Before buying either of these two types of ammunition, always check your gun to find what caliber it is chambered for, then buy the appropriate ammunition. Most 5.56mm rounds made have full metal jacket bullets. Performance bullets - soft points, hollow points, Ballistic Silvertips, etc. - are loaded in .223 Rem cartridges. Firing a .223 Rem cartridge in a 5.56mm-chambered gun is safe and merely gives you slightly reduced velocity and accuracy. However we do not recommend, nor does SAAMI recommend, firing a 5.56mm cartridge in a gun chambered for the .223 Rem as the shorter leade can cause pressure-related problems. Winchester Law Enforcement Ammunition East Alton Illinois |
Originally Posted by EVS Motors Inc.
(Post 298161)
Here is some information from Winchester. Paul Nowak5/4/2001.223 Rem VS 5.56mm There are a lot of questions about these two cartridges. Many people think they are identical - merely different designations for commercial and military. The truth is that, although somewhat similar, they are not the same and you should know the differences before buying either cartridge.
Before buying either of these two types of ammunition, always check your gun to find what caliber it is chambered for, then buy the appropriate ammunition. Most 5.56mm rounds made have full metal jacket bullets. Performance bullets - soft points, hollow points, Ballistic Silvertips, etc. - are loaded in .223 Rem cartridges. Firing a .223 Rem cartridge in a 5.56mm-chambered gun is safe and merely gives you slightly reduced velocity and accuracy. However we do not recommend, nor does SAAMI recommend, firing a 5.56mm cartridge in a gun chambered for the .223 Rem as the shorter leade can cause pressure-related problems. Winchester Law Enforcement Ammunition East Alton Illinois This really doesn't address comparisons between military issue 5.56 and match grade .223. It is more of a commentary on the differences of the calibers. |
Originally Posted by Josh
(Post 298670)
This really doesn't address comparisons between military issue 5.56 and match grade .223. It is more of a commentary on the differences of the calibers. |
I don't have a manual that came with my "Colt Sporter MATCH HBAR CAL .223" . It is a pre-ban weapon and on the topside of the barrel it says: O MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR. Does this mean the obvious ? Or does it only indicate the barrel is suitable for 5.56, but the chamber may not. Thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by rockitman
(Post 330492)
I don't have a manual that came with my "Colt Sporter MATCH HBAR CAL .223" . It is a pre-ban weapon and on the topside of the barrel it says: O MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 HBAR. Does this mean the obvious ? Or does it only indicate the barrel is suitable for 5.56, but the chamber may not. Thanks in advance. |
Good to know EVS. Thanks. Now the only problem is finding bulk 5.56. .223 is available everywhere. |
Originally Posted by rockitman
(Post 330618)
Good to know EVS. Thanks. Now the only problem is finding bulk 5.56. .223 is available everywhere. Try this website AmmoEngine: 7.5x55mm Swiss (Schmidt-Rubin), Instock For Sale Premium & Discount Ammunition, Ammo Deals Good deal here... http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...box.jsp.form23 |
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