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Dave S 04-23-2009 09:17 AM

I like how they get the guys in submission. Standing on the guy's legs is a great way to get him to be still, although there are other better, less violent ways :)
Spetsnaz ftw

tractorcrusher 04-23-2009 09:25 AM

That's wild, I can't believe they made that mistake...

BTW- Did anyone else notice that was a Techart Cayenne??

Tsar 04-23-2009 09:38 AM

EDIT*** Never mind I made a mistake

chokeu2 04-23-2009 11:08 AM

First, those guys were not Spetsnaz... The guys in the Cayenne would be dead if it were.
Those were simply Russian Police.

Those guys if caught red handed are toast. You have to remember that human life over there is cheap. The thing that never left the Russia even after the fall of communism is that individual life means nothing. Socialism and Communism erase any value placed on life in exchange for the value of the collective. That may sound like a political rant, but it is a reality of life under a collectivist system, even in a "formerly" collectivist system.

Sadly, when Putin took over years ago, he broke Russia into the seven military districts that it was under during communist rule, and brought back the brutality of the secret police forces.

If you screw up over there, you are guilty until proven innocent. You may die, or suffer body altering abuse prior to ever being given the chance to be proven innocent, let alone shown innocent through a trial.

You want to see some sadists... you just saw some.

Tsar 04-23-2009 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by chokeu2 (Post 300443)
First, those guys were not Spetsnaz... The guys in the Cayenne would be dead if it were.
Those were simply Russian Police.


You want to see some sadists... you just saw some.

Little correction, they were MVD ERT (Ministry of Internal Affairs emergency response team). They are above regular Russian police.

And as far as sadism goes... they didn't even get close to it by the Russian standards.

chokeu2 04-23-2009 02:13 PM

True enough, good clarification. I likened them to our FBI, which I will also call a cop. :D

And you're right, they were almost polite in how those guys were treated.

Not that I want murderers to get an easy time of it, but those guys tend to be that hard on just about anyone. For sport.

MiniRup 04-23-2009 05:34 PM

Well, they seem very enthusiastic about their job.
Then again, the Russian criminals sounds pretty hardcore too. Some years ago, a mafia boss got hit while parked by the curb. With an anti-tank rocket, so that armoured car didn't help all that much.

Tsar 04-23-2009 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by chokeu2 (Post 300581)
True enough, good clarification. I likened them to our FBI, which I will also call a cop. :D

And you're right, they were almost polite in how those guys were treated.

Not that I want murderers to get an easy time of it, but those guys tend to be that hard on just about anyone. For sport.

True. Pathetic really, I've read reports where regular police treated teenagers (14-15, can't recall the exact age) worse than the guys on the video. However, they were held in the station for a few days. We don't actually know what happened to those guys after they went off camera. Although I do not feel bad for an everyday Russian criminal, especially the one who would drive a Porsche (expensive car in general).



Originally Posted by MiniRup (Post 300746)
Well, they seem very enthusiastic about their job.
Then again, the Russian criminals sounds pretty hardcore too. Some years ago, a mafia boss got hit while parked by the curb. With an anti-tank rocket, so that armoured car didn't help all that much.

I remember when someone tried to shoot at the American embassy in Moscow with one of those, it malfunctioned, the car was found torched and they never found the people...

carendt242 04-23-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by chokeu2 (Post 300443)

If you screw up over there, you are guilty until proven innocent. You may die, or suffer body altering abuse prior to ever being given the chance to be proven innocent, let alone shown innocent through a trial.

Mark of Cain, a documentary, goes inside the prisons. the prison & judicial systems are so backed up that you could be held in a 400sq ft room with 30 other guys for over 2 years before your trial.

- chuck

Tsar 04-23-2009 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by carendt242 (Post 300855)
Mark of Cain, a documentary, goes inside the prisons. the prison & judicial systems are so backed up that you could be held in a 400sq ft room with 30 other guys for over 2 years before your trial.

- chuck

Sadly, that's the nice part..

If you're interested in watching . Can't say I'm all for prison rights, but I can't say that I agree with the "preventative actions" that were undertaken by the prison. It would certainly not happen in US, that I can say for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOmCdMcZz80


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